Oren at Irvine http://blogs.jta.org/ENTRY_PERMALINK_HERE/oren-at-irvine/ Watch the video of Israel’s ambassador being heckled throughout his speech at UC-Irvine. en-us bharris@jta.org Copyright 2010 2010-02-09T;20:59:00-05:00 Comment by Danny djkid@bigpond.net.au Michael Santomauro Editorial Director Call anytime: 917-974-6367 ReporterNotebook@Gmail.com New release: Debating The Holocaust by Thomas Dalton_ _ “Debating the Holocaust”??????? Cynical pseudo academic intellectualism at its basest and most absurd. What is there to debate? Michael Santomauro
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“Debating the Holocaust”???????
Cynical pseudo academic intellectualism at its basest and most absurd.
What is there to debate?

]]> 2012-02-09T;19:12:00-05:00 Comment by Archie1954 robertgsmiley@hotmail.com I simply don’t understand why Irvine would invite the ambassador from a pariah state to speak at the university. He got exactly what he deserved. Do you think for one second that we all forget how the president of Iran was treated at Columbia? Well we haven’t! I simply don’t understand why Irvine would invite the ambassador from a pariah state to speak at the university. He got exactly what he deserved. Do you think for one second that we all forget how the president of Iran was treated at Columbia? Well we haven’t!

]]> 2012-02-09T;19:12:00-05:00 Comment by webster webster@alaska.net It is the way of the COWARD to be afraid to even hear the opinions of those who disagree with us...the disruptive students showed their true colors and their COWARDICE, at a time when they might have, instead, had the opportunity to put forth IDEAS.  They should be ashamed of the way they represented their people and their principles..if they have any...as, because of their behavior, no one had the opportunity to find out. It is the way of the COWARD to be afraid to even hear the opinions of those who disagree with us...the disruptive students showed their true colors and their COWARDICE, at a time when they might have, instead, had the opportunity to put forth IDEAS.  They should be ashamed of the way they represented their people and their principles..if they have any...as, because of their behavior, no one had the opportunity to find out.

]]> 2012-02-09T;19:12:00-05:00 Comment by Michael Santomauro RePorterNoteBook@Gmail.com An Ethnie without a sense of peoplehood will end up being used to achieve the goals of other ethnies. —Michael Santomauro A Sense of Peoplehood is not a Pathology It is not racist for Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren, or to expand on to other pundits a professor such as Alan Dershowitz or for a professor like Kevin MacDonald to advocate for their ethnic group interests. The words for bigotry, that are often used, such as: ant-Semitic, anti-white, anti-black, anti-Arab, anti-feminist, anti-gay and hundreds of other labels, are for the most part overstated. Instead, it should be seen as pro-white, or pro-Jewish or pro-women or pro-traditional family and not be ashamed of it. These “pro” sensibilities are part of the human condition, not to be pathologized into an “anti.” It is about group interests. A race or an ethnie without a sense of peoplehood or ethnichood will end up being used to achieve the goals of other ethnies. (Yes, ethnie, not ethnic). The feelings or thoughts for peoplehood is not a pathology. The European-American will have White ethnic interests and it is not racist to have them. Just as Hispanics, Asians, Jews and Blacks have their own ethnic interests, it should not be a pathology for Whites to have ethnic interests. If you don’t agree with Jewish group interests then stop heckling and become a member of: The American Third Position <A3p.org> Peace. Michael Santomauro Editorial Director Call anytime: 917-974-6367 ReporterNotebook@Gmail.com New release: Debating The Holocaust by Thomas Dalton_ _ An Ethnie without a sense of peoplehood will end up being used to achieve the goals of other ethnies. —Michael Santomauro

A Sense of Peoplehood is not a Pathology

It is not racist for Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren, or to expand on to other pundits a professor such as Alan Dershowitz or for a professor like Kevin MacDonald to advocate for their ethnic group interests.

The words for bigotry, that are often used, such as: ant-Semitic, anti-white, anti-black, anti-Arab, anti-feminist, anti-gay and hundreds of other labels, are for the most part overstated. Instead, it should be seen as pro-white, or pro-Jewish or pro-women or pro-traditional family and not be ashamed of it.

These “pro” sensibilities are part of the human condition, not to be pathologized into an “anti.”

It is about group interests.

A race or an ethnie without a sense of peoplehood or ethnichood will end up being used to achieve the goals of other ethnies. (Yes, ethnie, not ethnic).

The feelings or thoughts for peoplehood is not a pathology. The European-American will have White ethnic interests and it is not racist to have them. Just as Hispanics, Asians, Jews and Blacks have their own ethnic interests, it should not be a pathology for Whites to have ethnic interests.

If you don’t agree with Jewish group interests then stop heckling and become a member of:

The American Third Position <A3p.org>

Peace.

Michael Santomauro
Editorial Director
Call anytime: 917-974-6367
ReporterNotebook@Gmail.com
New release: Debating The Holocaust by Thomas Dalton_ _

]]> 2012-02-09T;19:12:00-05:00 Comment by John Q. Public kerry.berger@gmail.com It is time that various on campus Moslem Student Union members be given a warning that the purpose of a university education is to learn from policy makers from all sides of the fence.&nbsp; If they want to protest, then do it after the speech is made, or to be genuinely intelligent, why not ask a legitimate question rather than spewing off the typical Arab anti-Semitic propaganda that prevents rapprochement..&nbsp; These students have to take responsibility for their actions instead of playing the race card or the blame game at inappropriate times.&nbsp; If these hecklers were foreign students from Arab nations, frankly I believe they ought to be expelled from the University and sent home.&nbsp; It is the same shameful behavior shown by the Arab League towards Israelis at the United Nations.&nbsp; My concern is that so many of the condemnations against Israel are bogus and incited by the same racists and their sympathizers who seriously don’t want a just peace in the Middle East, because it means they must do something to lift their own people (not just the dictator’s family and cronies and monarchs) out of poverty.&nbsp; Bottom line is that Israel is a developed nation, whereas so many of the surrounding neighbors are corrupt hereditary dictatorships.&nbsp; The same is true with a two State settlement.&nbsp; It cannot happen when the Fatah faction makes new pre-conditions and provocations for negotiations and every excuse under the sun not to solve problems civilly without resorting to childish shenanigans similar to this embarrassing episode on a US campus. It is time that various on campus Moslem Student Union members be given a warning that the purpose of a university education is to learn from policy makers from all sides of the fence.  If they want to protest, then do it after the speech is made, or to be genuinely intelligent, why not ask a legitimate question rather than spewing off the typical Arab anti-Semitic propaganda that prevents rapprochement..  These students have to take responsibility for their actions instead of playing the race card or the blame game at inappropriate times.  If these hecklers were foreign students from Arab nations, frankly I believe they ought to be expelled from the University and sent home.  It is the same shameful behavior shown by the Arab League towards Israelis at the United Nations. 

My concern is that so many of the condemnations against Israel are bogus and incited by the same racists and their sympathizers who seriously don’t want a just peace in the Middle East, because it means they must do something to lift their own people (not just the dictator’s family and cronies and monarchs) out of poverty.  Bottom line is that Israel is a developed nation, whereas so many of the surrounding neighbors are corrupt hereditary dictatorships.  The same is true with a two State settlement.  It cannot happen when the Fatah faction makes new pre-conditions and provocations for negotiations and every excuse under the sun not to solve problems civilly without resorting to childish shenanigans similar to this embarrassing episode on a US campus.

]]> 2012-02-09T;19:12:00-05:00 Comment by Eve Kaplan winklerkaplan@comcast.net Spew your misguided venom elsewhere, Yosef. Spew your misguided venom elsewhere, Yosef.

]]> 2012-02-09T;19:12:00-05:00 Comment by Yosef Hartuv yosefandmelody@gmail.com Hours earlier, UCI’s Muslim Student Union said in an email today that its members “condemn and oppose the presence of Michael Oren, the ambassador of Israel to the United States, on our campus today. We resent that the Law School and the Political Science Department on our campus have agreed to cosponsor a public figure who represents a state that continues to break international and humanitarian law and is condemned by more UN Human Rights Council resolutions than all other countries in the world combined.” (This video is dedicated to them) http://calevbenyefuneh.blogspot.com/2009/10/obsessive-and-compulsive.html#links Hours earlier, UCI’s Muslim Student Union said in an email today that its members “condemn and oppose the presence of Michael Oren, the ambassador of Israel to the United States, on our campus today. We resent that the Law School and the Political Science Department on our campus have agreed to cosponsor a public figure who represents a state that continues to break international and humanitarian law and is condemned by more UN Human Rights Council resolutions than all other countries in the world combined.” (This video is dedicated to them) http://calevbenyefuneh.blogspot.com/2009/10/obsessive-and-compulsive.html#links

]]> 2012-02-09T;19:12:00-05:00 Comment by Eve Kaplan winklerkaplan@comcast.net Another shameful display of ignorance and intolerance on university campuses....this is a sickening display to watch. Yasher Koach to Ambassador Oren. Another shameful display of ignorance and intolerance on university campuses....this is a sickening display to watch. Yasher Koach to Ambassador Oren.

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