The Rubashkin trial: Jury selection, his successor speaks http://blogs.jta.org/ENTRY_PERMALINK_HERE/the-rubashkin-trial-jury-selection-his-successor-speaks/ Sholom Rubashkin, the former manager of the Agriprocessors kosher slaughterhouse in Postville, Iowa, had plenty of supporters at the courthouse for first day of his federal fraud trial. The man who bought the meatpacking plant tells the Des Moines Register that things are running differently now. en-us aeden@jta.org Copyright 2009 2009-10-14T;18:52:00-05:00 Comment by Thomas Roberts whamslam007@aol.com Blackie - You referred to me as TR --- Teddy Roosevelt? Nah. Couldn’t be. He accomplished more in a day than I will in my lifetime. So back to my original point. There are a number of good contributers on this board and when one is inspired to write due to an onslaught of herpes that person should write something constructive to add to our information rather than a rant. I don’t blame you for your reaction, but try reading some AOL commentors, especially vis-a-vis Jews and Blacks. I also used to go to known reliable boards for specific stocks I owned and even THERE I was deluged with hate, bigotry, gross Anti-Israel and Antisemitic diatribes and the issue was how the stock is performing and news about the company. And the haters held at least 1/3rd of a board hostage. Haters invade anywhere they have a large enough audience to spew to. It is virtually impossible to stop this stuff on digital bulletin boards because one can have infinite opportunities to use new user names and Email addresses with Hotmail, Yahoo Mail, Gmail and one of at well over a thousand small ISP’s that offer their own Email. The heuristics that are used to prevent spam cannot be used for bulletin board comments. This is all too complex to handle in an Email - you can look up how anti-spam engines work - but the point is JTA is not at fault here. I stand by my ignore ‘em approach. Those of us who want to share info will agglomerate together, leaving the herpes mongers as simply meaningless outliers. Blackie -

You referred to me as TR --- Teddy Roosevelt? Nah. Couldn’t be. He accomplished more in a day than I will in my lifetime.

So back to my original point. There are a number of good contributers on this board and when one is inspired to write due to an onslaught of herpes that person should write something constructive to add to our information rather than a rant.

I don’t blame you for your reaction, but try reading some AOL commentors, especially vis-a-vis Jews and Blacks. I also used to go to known reliable boards for specific stocks I owned and even THERE I was deluged with hate, bigotry, gross Anti-Israel and Antisemitic diatribes and the issue was how the stock is performing and news about the company. And the haters held at least 1/3rd of a board hostage. Haters invade anywhere they have a large enough audience to spew to.

It is virtually impossible to stop this stuff on digital bulletin boards because one can have infinite opportunities to use new user names and Email addresses with Hotmail, Yahoo Mail, Gmail and one of at well over a thousand small ISP’s that offer their own Email.

The heuristics that are used to prevent spam cannot be used for bulletin board comments.

This is all too complex to handle in an Email - you can look up how anti-spam engines work - but the point is JTA is not at fault here.

I stand by my ignore ‘em approach. Those of us who want to share info will agglomerate together, leaving the herpes mongers as simply meaningless outliers.

]]> 2012-02-09T;19:12:00-05:00 Comment by blackie sschwartz@inbox.com TR, With all due respect, as I’ve told you before, they will not go away if ignored. They are like herpes, only more obnoxious. Case in point, Mussa Puke was suspended not too long ago and now he’s back. There must be reasons why JTA does what it does and the way that they do it. But you won’t have the privilege of knowing that since it seems that JTA has adopted a new policy of ignoring their readers by not responding to inquiries. Try it yourself and you’ll see. TR,
With all due respect, as I’ve told you before, they will not go away if ignored. They are like herpes, only more obnoxious. Case in point, Mussa Puke was suspended not too long ago and now he’s back. There must be reasons why JTA does what it does and the way that they do it. But you won’t have the privilege of knowing that since it seems that JTA has adopted a new policy of ignoring their readers by not responding to inquiries. Try it yourself and you’ll see.

]]> 2012-02-09T;19:12:00-05:00 Comment by Thomas Roberts whamslam007@aol.com One oops: Report Comment appears after a comment is posted. However, should be there when the article is read. I don’t recall, now, how it was in the good old free wheeling days - like a couple of weeks ago. One oops: Report Comment appears after a comment is posted. However, should be there when the article is read. I don’t recall, now, how it was in the good old free wheeling days - like a couple of weeks ago.

]]> 2012-02-09T;19:12:00-05:00 Comment by Thomas Roberts whamslam007@aol.com I still wonder why the dunderheads on this board are responded to. Commentors like Mussa act like the gross kid in the back of the room in the 5th grade who makes burp and fart sounds to get attention - and laughs when he does. We have yet to hear from Thoroughly Disgusted and Dawg, but once they sniff that Mussa and David are here they’ll return as well. Ignore them and they WILL go away. Classroom nuisances stop when ignored. So will JTA Board nuisances. My curiosity is why JTA allows comments only on articles under “Editor’s Picks” on their Daily Briefings Email. Also, “Report Comment” has been removed. Seems as though some form of monitoring test is underway. Anyway, remember what the sooth said when confronted by an outrageous traveler on his way: “Sticks and stones. They mayeth harm me, but words will not. But you, sir, with your bile and your foul breath are a challenge to even the mightiest stone throwers. So to yee I shall pay no heed nor observance.” I suggest we all follow ole sage’s advice. I still wonder why the dunderheads on this board are responded to. Commentors like Mussa act like the gross kid in the back of the room in the 5th grade who makes burp and fart sounds to get attention - and laughs when he does.

We have yet to hear from Thoroughly Disgusted and Dawg, but once they sniff that Mussa and David are here they’ll return as well.

Ignore them and they WILL go away. Classroom nuisances stop when ignored. So will JTA Board nuisances.

My curiosity is why JTA allows comments only on articles under “Editor’s Picks” on their Daily Briefings Email. Also, “Report Comment” has been removed. Seems as though some form of monitoring test is underway.

Anyway, remember what the sooth said when confronted by an outrageous traveler on his way:
“Sticks and stones. They mayeth harm me, but words will not. But you, sir, with your bile and your foul breath are a challenge to even the mightiest stone throwers. So to yee I shall pay no heed nor observance.”

I suggest we all follow ole sage’s advice.

]]> 2012-02-09T;19:12:00-05:00 Comment by blackie sschwartz@inbox.com TO: JTA So you got rid of Mussa da Moron...then you got rid of the comments links for all of your articles (thereby throwing the baby out with the bath water!)...and now you allow “Mussas Back” to resume posting his idiotic drivel, personal attacks, and un-Jewish filth. Have you no standards or do you just make them up as you go along? How about a response for all of us??? TO: JTA
So you got rid of Mussa da Moron...then you got rid of the comments links for all of your articles (thereby throwing the baby out with the bath water!)...and now you allow “Mussas Back” to resume posting his idiotic drivel, personal attacks, and un-Jewish filth. Have you no standards or do you just make them up as you go along? How about a response for all of us???

]]> 2012-02-09T;19:12:00-05:00 Comment by Eugene M. Kravis ekravis@care2.com When a USDA Veterinary Meat Inspector raises his hand, the plant stops!!! NO IFS,ANDS OR BUTS, That was the law when I was a young veterinary meat inspector in the 1960’s. And that included the ENTIRE PLANT. If the meat products are shipped in interstate commerce, THE LAW is in effect. ENFORCE IT and the problems will go away. Eugene M. Kravis, DVM. When a USDA Veterinary Meat Inspector raises his hand, the plant stops!!! NO IFS,ANDS OR BUTS, That was the law when I was a young veterinary meat inspector in the 1960’s. And that included the ENTIRE PLANT. If the meat products are shipped in interstate commerce, THE LAW is in effect. ENFORCE IT and the problems will go away.
Eugene M. Kravis, DVM.

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