Lost that loving feeling for Israel? http://blogs.jta.org/ENTRY_PERMALINK_HERE/lost-that-loving-feeling-for-israel/ In his column at the Forward, columnist Jay Michaelson explains why he’s losing his love for Israel. Meanwhile, in the same issue, Michael Kainer examines one man’s effort to boost support for the Jewish state with an all-Israeli gay porn film. en-us aeden@jta.org Copyright 2009 2009-09-22T;19:32:00-05:00 Comment by stuart goldbarg sgoldbarg@msn.com Seeing Russian pimps make money off young, prostituted Israeli, sex slaves is not likely to get my heart beating fast for the Promised Land.  Lukas belongs behind bars for life, and his string of boys deserve freedom and proper medical and psychological treatment. Seeing Russian pimps make money off young, prostituted Israeli, sex slaves is not likely to get my heart beating fast for the Promised Land.  Lukas belongs behind bars for life, and his string of boys deserve freedom and proper medical and psychological treatment.

]]> 2012-02-09T;19:12:00-05:00 Comment by Gary Katz garybkatz@comcast.net By the logic of this article, we Americans would love the U.S. less too.  The thing about Israel and the U.S. is, if you’re dissatisfied, you can peacefully work to change things for the better.  In many countries, such activity merely gets you thrown in jail (e.g., Iran). By the logic of this article, we Americans would love the U.S. less too.  The thing about Israel and the U.S. is, if you’re dissatisfied, you can peacefully work to change things for the better.  In many countries, such activity merely gets you thrown in jail (e.g., Iran).

]]> 2012-02-09T;19:12:00-05:00 Comment by Thomas Roberts whamslam007@aol.com I have now several times made the challenge to the Israel baiters to define Zionism and how it impacts modern Israel. None have done so because they follow the Muslim media tact of using the word Zionist to mean a dirty Jew in standard lexicon. But Dawg and TD and Marilyn Shepherd and David and Evans and a growing host of others just keep tossing garbage on Israel. Those d@#$d Jews! Killing and brutalizing those helpless Palestinians - and all for no reason whatsoever. Let’s start by seeing if any of you know what Zionism is and how it impacts current Israel. Let this be a pop quiz to test your knowledge. I have now several times made the challenge to the Israel baiters to define Zionism and how it impacts modern Israel. None have done so because they follow the Muslim media tact of using the word Zionist to mean a dirty Jew in standard lexicon.

But Dawg and TD and Marilyn Shepherd and David and Evans and a growing host of others just keep tossing garbage on Israel. Those d@#$d Jews! Killing and brutalizing those helpless Palestinians - and all for no reason whatsoever.

Let’s start by seeing if any of you know what Zionism is and how it impacts current Israel. Let this be a pop quiz to test your knowledge.

]]> 2012-02-09T;19:12:00-05:00 Comment by blackie sschwartz@inbox.com Of course, “TD” contaminates this site with repulsive filth such as “Zionazis” because he’s baiting JTA to throw him out of here. Sadly, JTA seems to have a comments’ policy of enabling anti-Semitism. Why else would a Jewish Web site tolerate the never-ending flood of Jew hate which plagues these pages every day? But it is fruitless for a mere mortal to inquire as to said policy, since JTA also has a policy of never responding to its online readers. So Jew haters get deliberately overlooked here, while Jews themselves are held to a much stricter standard of blogging conduct. Go figure! Of course, “TD” contaminates this site with repulsive filth such as “Zionazis” because he’s baiting JTA to throw him out of here. Sadly, JTA seems to have a comments’ policy of enabling anti-Semitism. Why else would a Jewish Web site tolerate the never-ending flood of Jew hate which plagues these pages every day? But it is fruitless for a mere mortal to inquire as to said policy, since JTA also has a policy of never responding to its online readers. So Jew haters get deliberately overlooked here, while Jews themselves are held to a much stricter standard of blogging conduct. Go figure!

]]> 2012-02-09T;19:12:00-05:00 Comment by Annekl henrykl@inter.net.il To the moderators: How you can leave up a comment such as Thoroughly Disgusting’s, using the term Zionazis to describe Zionists (or perhaps Jews?) is simply beyond me.  At the very least the comment should be edited. To Mr. Michaelson, a love that is dependent on something - in this case Israel behaving as you would wish rather than how she feels is necessary for her survival - is not a true love, and we Israelis are far better off without your “love”, which would strangle her or cause her to commit suicide. To the moderators: How you can leave up a comment such as Thoroughly Disgusting’s, using the term Zionazis to describe Zionists (or perhaps Jews?) is simply beyond me.  At the very least the comment should be edited.

To Mr. Michaelson, a love that is dependent on something - in this case Israel behaving as you would wish rather than how she feels is necessary for her survival - is not a true love, and we Israelis are far better off without your “love”, which would strangle her or cause her to commit suicide.

]]> 2012-02-09T;19:12:00-05:00 Comment by steve ornstein steve@israelseen.com Mr. Michaelson, Since your love is conditional then what do you expect. Come to Israel and change her. Live here and be a part of the solution and not the problem from a far. As President Kennedy said, “Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country”? Think about it a little. Stop pouting like a child and have the B..ls to live here and fight for the change you believe in. Otherwise, your love or now hate has little value for us living here in Israel. Mr. Michaelson,

Since your love is conditional then what do you expect. Come to Israel and change her. Live here and be a part of the solution and not the problem from a far. As President Kennedy said, “Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country”?

Think about it a little. Stop pouting like a child and have the B..ls to live here and fight for the change you believe in. Otherwise, your love or now hate has little value for us living here in Israel.

]]> 2012-02-09T;19:12:00-05:00 Comment by Rob Brownstein rob.brownstein@litepoint.com I disagree totally with Michaelson. My love for Israel has not waned even as it has changed. Who am I to judge the transformation from kibbutzim to a country that is a major player in global high technology? Before there was “occupied territory,” the belligerent neighboring states and the Arab League was still trying to destroy Israel. Nothing has changed except the reasons for wanting to destroy it. I see Israel the way, I think, a parent should see their child. I see the flaws but I still love him/her unconditionally. And, please don’t offend me by accusing me of being an “Israel right or wrong” proponent. Perhaps if the nation embraced a political system that was really analogous to facism, I could be persuaded to disown it. But, come on, America’s flirting with domestic phone taps is a greater threat to freedom than anything Israel has done. In what other Middle Eastern country are the peace marches? Where are the Sudanese activists protesting what has been going on in Darfur? In Egypt opposition is routinely quashed with no regard for human rights. So, Israel has still not crossed any of my lines in the sand; and continues to get my unconditional love. I disagree totally with Michaelson. My love for Israel has not waned even as it has changed. Who am I to judge the transformation from kibbutzim to a country that is a major player in global high technology? Before there was “occupied territory,” the belligerent neighboring states and the Arab League was still trying to destroy Israel. Nothing has changed except the reasons for wanting to destroy it. I see Israel the way, I think, a parent should see their child. I see the flaws but I still love him/her unconditionally. And, please don’t offend me by accusing me of being an “Israel right or wrong” proponent. Perhaps if the nation embraced a political system that was really analogous to facism, I could be persuaded to disown it. But, come on, America’s flirting with domestic phone taps is a greater threat to freedom than anything Israel has done. In what other Middle Eastern country are the peace marches? Where are the Sudanese activists protesting what has been going on in Darfur? In Egypt opposition is routinely quashed with no regard for human rights. So, Israel has still not crossed any of my lines in the sand; and continues to get my unconditional love.

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