Hey, Bibi, yes or no? http://blogs.jta.org/ENTRY_PERMALINK_HERE/bibi-on-a-palestinian-state/ Benjamin Netanyahu continues to evade the question of whether or not he supports a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. en-us uheilman@jta.org Copyright 2009 2009-03-12T;21:50:00-05:00 Comment by David Chamberlain dchamberlain111@yahoo.com I agree with Bibi. First be sure what is going to happen, then decide what to do about it. A Palestinian state on Israel’s land is not an idea favored by the God of Israel. David I agree with Bibi. First be sure what is going to happen, then decide what to do about it. A Palestinian state on Israel’s land is not an idea favored by the God of Israel. David

]]> 2012-02-09T;19:12:00-05:00 Comment by Esther Elliott estherbenarroch2002@yahoo.com Al of you have a point. I agree with Alan, the neighboring Arab states of Egypt and Jordan should take the full responsability for these people. About the point of giving out land, those areas of Gaza, Judea and Samaria are already lost to us. Al of you have a point. I agree with Alan, the neighboring Arab states of Egypt and Jordan should take the full responsability for these people. About the point of giving out land, those areas of Gaza, Judea and Samaria are already lost to us.

]]> 2012-02-09T;19:12:00-05:00 Comment by Paul Winter winfamly@bigpond.net.au Bibi’s position is pragmatic and the Israeli swing to the “right” confirms that most Israelis do not see a Palestinian state as anything more than a mantra. For too long Israeli leaders have been paying lip service to the various meddlers who want to push israel into a suicide pact to advance their own national interests. Put simply, for the Arabs, maintaining a state of war is more important than establishing a state. Even the faction - the PA - internationally designated as “moderate” supports terror and refuses to recognise Israel as a Jewish state. The Arabs of Gaza, Judea and Samaria can either join the 21st century or Israel needs to continue its tutelage of the fanatical savages who reside in those terrotories. Any talk of Israel having to choose between democracy and demographic annihilation is talking nonsense! Australia was (and remains) a democracy when it controlled New Guinea; it gave that territory independence when the people there developed to the point of being able togovern themselves. The Arabs and meddlers need to be told that until the Arabs abandon the war path, Israel will exercise the responsibilities of a colonial power to stop a future Palestine from becoming not only a failed state - as most colonies became - but a terror launching region for Islamofascists. Bibi’s position is pragmatic and the Israeli swing to the “right” confirms that most Israelis do not see a Palestinian state as anything more than a mantra. For too long Israeli leaders have been paying lip service to the various meddlers who want to push israel into a suicide pact to advance their own national interests. Put simply, for the Arabs, maintaining a state of war is more important than establishing a state. Even the faction - the PA - internationally designated as “moderate” supports terror and refuses to recognise Israel as a Jewish state. The Arabs of Gaza, Judea and Samaria can either join the 21st century or Israel needs to continue its tutelage of the fanatical savages who reside in those terrotories. Any talk of Israel having to choose between democracy and demographic annihilation is talking nonsense! Australia was (and remains) a democracy when it controlled New Guinea; it gave that territory independence when the people there developed to the point of being able togovern themselves. The Arabs and meddlers need to be told that until the Arabs abandon the war path, Israel will exercise the responsibilities of a colonial power to stop a future Palestine from becoming not only a failed state - as most colonies became - but a terror launching region for Islamofascists.

]]> 2012-02-09T;19:12:00-05:00 Comment by ethel saltz macnietspingal@airmail.net I don’t get it.  Wouldn’t the first thing the JTA could do is publish the Draft Constitution of the State of Palestine.  I googled it.  I can’t figure out how lawyer Clinton could even attempt to negotiate peace between Israel and a State of Palestine.  It’s as if there had been no Muslim invasion as soon as Israel was acknowledged by the U.N.  Yes, I know Israel doesn’t have a Constitution but it’s because of the fight between treating the Torah Scrolls as secular books or Holy Books.  If you read the Palestinian Constitution, they say Jerusalem is their capital.  They don’t even know about Cyrus and Darius participating in Jewish Jerusalem.  If they read the Bible they’d know more about their own history. In addition, I just don’t get the average US parent.  It’s okay for US citizens to discuss the Quran and the Bible (my preference, NSRV which includes the devine Maccabees IV.  Makes me feel especially proud to be a Jew. ) It’s okay for all Muslim countries not to study thed Bible.  So irrational.  Makes our military bipolar I think.  Just thinking of this injustice, makes me feel victimized by the Quranic countries. I had an Orthodox Hebrew education and I think all US should replace the first five books of the NSRV with the cdrom The Trope Trainer;) The reason I use the NSRV is because it preserves my entire Jewish history.  It’s all about Middle Eastern Jews I believe except for Luke. I don’t get it.  Wouldn’t the first thing the JTA could do is publish the Draft Constitution of the State of Palestine.  I googled it.  I can’t figure out how lawyer Clinton could even attempt to negotiate peace between Israel and a State of Palestine.  It’s as if there had been no Muslim invasion as soon as Israel was acknowledged by the U.N.  Yes, I know Israel doesn’t have a Constitution but it’s because of the fight between treating the Torah Scrolls as secular books or Holy Books.  If you read the Palestinian Constitution, they say Jerusalem is their capital.  They don’t even know about Cyrus and Darius participating in Jewish Jerusalem.  If they read the Bible they’d know more about their own history.

In addition, I just don’t get the average US parent.  It’s okay for US citizens to discuss the Quran and the Bible (my preference, NSRV which includes the devine Maccabees IV.  Makes me feel especially proud to be a Jew. ) It’s okay for all Muslim countries not to study thed Bible.  So irrational.  Makes our military bipolar I think.  Just thinking of this injustice, makes me feel victimized by the Quranic countries.
I had an Orthodox Hebrew education and I think all US should replace the first five books of the NSRV with the cdrom The Trope Trainer;) The reason I use the NSRV is because it preserves my entire Jewish history.  It’s all about Middle Eastern Jews I believe except for Luke.

]]> 2012-02-09T;19:12:00-05:00 Comment by michael zacharia mikh_zak1974@yahoo.com Alan, You couldnt be more wrong. You talk as if their is any parity whatsoever between the Palestinians and Israeis in their negotiating positions. Since 1967, the only party who can create a two-state solution is the Israelis. If the Palestinians could have, they would have. The choice for Israel, more so than ever before, is whether to be a Jewish state or a Democratic state, pure and simple. Even if they make peace in a way that Egypt and Jordan take over areas where Palestinians reside, it still means relinquishing land. And if Israel, has no intention of relinquishing any control of land where Palestinians reside (the Israeli position since Oslo) they must make them Israeli citizens. Perhaps a better title for this article would have been “Hey Israel: Yes or No?” Alan,
You couldnt be more wrong. You talk as if their is any parity whatsoever between the Palestinians and Israeis in their negotiating positions. Since 1967, the only party who can create a two-state solution is the Israelis. If the Palestinians could have, they would have. The choice for Israel, more so than ever before, is whether to be a Jewish state or a Democratic state, pure and simple. Even if they make peace in a way that Egypt and Jordan take over areas where Palestinians reside, it still means relinquishing land. And if Israel, has no intention of relinquishing any control of land where Palestinians reside (the Israeli position since Oslo) they must make them Israeli citizens. Perhaps a better title for this article would have been “Hey Israel: Yes or No?”

]]> 2012-02-09T;19:12:00-05:00 Comment by Alan Stein a.stein@snet.net It’s not up to Israel to decide what form of government the Palestinian Arabs ultimately have in whatever territory they eventually get in a settlement - under the assumption they ever decide they want a settlement. Whether they establish a state in that territory, establish two separate states (one in Gaza, one in Judea and Samaria), or do what’s clearly more sensible than either - ask Egypt to annex Gaza and ask Jordan to annex their portions of Judea and Samaria - is their decision, not Israel’s. It’s not up to Israel to decide what form of government the Palestinian Arabs ultimately have in whatever territory they eventually get in a settlement - under the assumption they ever decide they want a settlement. Whether they establish a state in that territory, establish two separate states (one in Gaza, one in Judea and Samaria), or do what’s clearly more sensible than either - ask Egypt to annex Gaza and ask Jordan to annex their portions of Judea and Samaria - is their decision, not Israel’s.

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