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08/22/09 08:07 PM

Huckabee has it exactly right. The (largely) unspoken truth worth repeating is that American Jews, given the luxury of geographic remove and the degree of affluence attained by Jews in the United States, have, by and large, bought into every imaginable kind of illusion concerning our enemies and their intentions. Christian evangelicals, on the other hand, have a much more grounded/sane view of what it will take for Jewish sovereignty to perpetuate.

In this condition, the notion that Christian evangelicals are Israel’s best friends here is not only plausible, but also all but ineluctable. And don’t anyone give me that nonsense impugning the motives of Christians who support the extension/perpetuation of a Jewish sovereign national existence for the fact that (a part of) this support springs from an eschatology which ought to be “alien” to Jews. When American Jewish liberals depart from the mentality whereof , say, abortion rights is more important than Israel, then these self-hating knaves might gain some standing in the contention as to whom (and what) is good for the Jews. Until then, these Jewish liberals should just shut up. And from the mere fact that 76-78% of us found a way to vote for a President who is, beyond peradventure, outright pro-Arab, hostile to the security interests of Israel and named “Hussein” to boot, this silence ought to last for a good long time.

08/22/09 11:23 PM

KK,
I hesitate to ask this...but, here goes:

Are you seriously drawing an immoral equivalency between Christian Evangicals and Islamo-fascist terrorists? When is the last time you heard a Christian Evangelical screaming, “Allahu Akbar”...kill all the Jews?! If I were an Israeli, I’d opt for staying alive in my Jewish State now and take my chances of an afterlife in hell! Israel needs all the friends she can get; if some of them have ulterior motives for standing up for Israel, we can deal with that later. But at least Israel will survive.

08/23/09 01:37 AM

One does not need to be Einstein to see that those anti-Zionists (if not worse) who deplore Christian evangelical support for Israel are enemies of the state and of the Jewish people generally.  Israel, the only Jewish state in the world, subjected to constant demonization and double standards and thus already isolated by the billion-plus Muslims and their cowardly allies in the Third World and the West, needs all the friends she can get.  Jews can easily let the Millenium take care of itself: truth will be revealed then for all the world to see.  However they live now in the pre-Messianic Era, surrounded by ill-wishers who would like to murder them and so I like all reasonable and devoted Jews am grateful for evangelical support: it is indeed as Huckabee has said: that support has been more realistic, constant and faithful than that from many assimilated and leftist American Jews.  Without that support, and that of non-evangelical Americans too (because - it needs to be stressed - the evangelical support is only a part of that broader consensus), there would not have been an Israel to begin with, nor would it have survived to the present.  It is telling that the strongest support for Israel has come from the center-right of American politics and society, including Presidents Reagan, Nixon and Bush, and that President Nixon literally saved Israel in the 1973 war, facing down threats of nuclear war from the USSR and total non-cooperation from Europe to resupply Israel’s military materiel at a crucial point in that war.  Without that support Israel would have gone under.  Quite apart from its own inability to continue the fight without adequate supplies, recently revealed documents from the former USSR have shown that the USSR was actually ready to invade Israel itself but desisted because of this US support.

By the way, Huckabee did not say that Nablus Arabs could travel anywhere in Israel (David Ehrens quite typically willfully misunderstands what he meant): he said, or meant, that Arabs in Israel (where they have full citizenship and civil rights) can do so, while any Jew caught in Nablus (or elsewhere in the P.A.) would be murdered and has no rights at all.  Ehrens overlooks that the Palestinians explicitly demand a Judenfrei Palestinian state, ethnically cleansed, as a condition for “peace,” as well as the “return” of Palestinians schooled in hatred inside Israel itself, to create bloody chaos, prior of course to going on to wipe out all Israeli Jews as well once the Palestinians gain their own state and a national army.  (Supporters of the Palestinians consistently refuse to face the Nazi links of its 1930s and 40s leadership, including the mentor of Yasser Arafat, his own uncle, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, and the continuation of Nazi themes, methods, media and education indoctrination and genocidal antisemitic goals, by the present Palestinian leadership, both Hamas and Fatah.  It is a pity that the American Jewish Democratic supporters of Obama do not take this seriously, contrary to Israeli Jews who must live daily under that reality and who whether leftist peaceniks or not almost completely distrust Obama.)

It is a great pity that Huckabee or McCain did not become president.  The signs were all there before the election for those willing to see them and not wish them away.  Obama has been a disaster.

08/23/09 05:55 PM

Thank G-d for mainstream Jews ......Mark Rudd, Bernadette Dohrn, Madoffs.....if only we all were good Jews then we would finally settle the Jewish problem.
i’m sure my relatived whose ashes cover Europe were not mainstream like the enlighten ones with the modern jewish names.  It must cause angst for the mainstream to have Pastor Hagee do more for Israel then .......