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No math, no science, no English for Israel’s haredim

Why should yeshiva boys need to know the multiplication tables or that the Earth revolves around the sun?

In an 11th-hour measure, the Knesset passed a law last month preserving public funding for haredi schools whose students study nothing other than Jewish studies. No math, no science, no English. The L.A. Times has a decent backgrounder on the debate over state funding of yeshivas.

This reminds me of two revealing conversations I had with Israeli haredim in recent years that evinced their lack of basic knowledge of how the world works. In one, a haredi was surprised to learn that the sun was a star. In the other, a haredi man patiently explained to me that after the sun sets, it warms the waters of the earth because it heats them from below-ground upward.

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Akiva

08/18/08 01:06 PM

Definetly a good point but the Haredi don’t live the despicable immoral lives, that the non religious espouse (not all, of course). How about true Torah observant life with secular studies thrown in. Whew! Sounds like the Lubavitch High School I sent my son to.

Carole

08/18/08 01:29 PM

there is no excuse for allowing ignorance.
this is inexcusable.
and the israeli gov’t supports this?!?!
this is part of the reason i will not support orthodox jewry charities.

Renee

08/19/08 08:49 AM

Blind indiscriminate prejudice is so comfortable. Just brush over millions of people and call them all the same. Those Orthodox Jewish charities you don’t support include the Maimonides School (K-12) in the Boston area, whose students regularly out perform kids their ages in math competitions and achieve outstanding results at the best colleges, and Yeshiva University, which has been ranked among the top universities in the country for its research impact.  And those are only two examples.
We tell people not to stereotype us Jews. As Jews, we shouldn’t stereotype each other.

Sarah

08/19/08 08:57 AM

Lubavitch Rabbi was a highly educated man, with knowledge in sciences.  It is thus unclear to me why his followers chose to remain so ignorant.

10/04/09 12:57 PM

Sarah a man with designs of grandeur doesn’t want his followers to follow too close.  Education is the bane of blind faith.  Blind faith is the bane to truth and truth is the bane of the evil one.  Education, especially in the sciences can only help a person throughout his entire public and private life.  Fear, Sarah, is what keeps the educators of these children from educating them.  They don’t want to lose power over them.

10/04/09 01:03 PM

Carole please don’t be so black or white.  Orthodox Jewry is the only time tested solid traditional Judaism.  There are extremes that call themselves Orthodox but they aren’t.  They are weird cults...every faith has them, Then there are the wishy washy groups that think whatever they want to do is ok… those we call Reform Jews.  I would say, from my limited experience, that Conservative Judaism is the more rational approach, but Orthodox Judaism is the authority.  Orthodox Judaism has largely grown in to a hijacked faith where powerfully political Rabbis use pressure position to push for themselves.  This is an aspect where interpretation of Torah is used to support their own agendas.  Trust me Carole, Ha-Shem will correct all our mistakes.  Do not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

10/04/09 01:07 PM

And there are a lot of Jewish charities I don’t give to simply because they do more good for the administrators then the needy.  I strongly believe in charity Carole, but I am not going to watch greedy men use helpless people as an excuse to make a fat paycheck.  Curse the man who gets rich off the backs of the poor.

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