Comments on: Justice @ 60 http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2008/05/08/349/justice-60/ Odds & ends from the staff of JTA Sat, 06 Sep 2008 04:13:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Samira http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2008/05/08/349/justice-60/#comment-2662 Samira Mon, 26 May 2008 06:52:30 +0000 http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/?p=349#comment-2662 There is nothing to celebrate. Palestine was Palestinian land where the Jews co-existed. It was taken from them through massacre. It's an apartheid state. To Palestinians and people who defend human rights and social justice this is the 60 mourning year and a war and an occupation that still is illegal and has broken the international law There is nothing to celebrate. Palestine was Palestinian land where the Jews co-existed. It was taken from them through massacre. It’s an apartheid state. To Palestinians and people who defend human rights and social justice this is the 60 mourning year and a war and an occupation that still is illegal and has broken the international law

]]> By: FresnoZionism.org — ציונות פרסנו » Blog Archive » It’s the jihad, stupid http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2008/05/08/349/justice-60/#comment-2396 FresnoZionism.org — ציונות פרסנו » Blog Archive » It’s the jihad, stupid Mon, 12 May 2008 18:33:25 +0000 http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/?p=349#comment-2396 [...] think that everything can be solved by fairness, economic development, and communication. Recently Rabbis for Human Rights held an ‘alternative’ 60th anniversary celebration for Israel, in which they emphasized the need for Israel to ‘live up’ to ethical [...] [...] think that everything can be solved by fairness, economic development, and communication. Recently Rabbis for Human Rights held an ‘alternative’ 60th anniversary celebration for Israel, in which they emphasized the need for Israel to ‘live up’ to ethical [...]

]]> By: Tato http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2008/05/08/349/justice-60/#comment-2386 Tato Sun, 11 May 2008 07:13:39 +0000 http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/?p=349#comment-2386 2604 Afterthought, because if you do not understand Judaism and do not understand politics and do not understand Hashkafa, chances are you shouldn't make public statements like those. The real Chutzpah is that of of a guy who calls himself a rabbi and probably eats pork, mechallel shabbes and weds Jews with shiktzas -- or at the very least is associate with those who do. Shame on you. 2604
Afterthought, because if you do not understand Judaism and do not understand politics and do not understand Hashkafa, chances are you shouldn’t make public statements like those. The real Chutzpah is that of of a guy who calls himself a rabbi and probably eats pork, mechallel shabbes and weds Jews with shiktzas — or at the very least is associate with those who do. Shame on you.

]]> By: debbi rubin http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2008/05/08/349/justice-60/#comment-2378 debbi rubin Sat, 10 May 2008 13:58:55 +0000 http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/?p=349#comment-2378 the problem is that we dont learn from our history. it has not been to long ago when we were fighting and yes dieing for everthing this new generation has in front of then. This new generation thinks that the SIX DAY WAR HAPPEN LONG TIME AGO. Yes it did but there are people who are still alive to talk about this of THIS war. Get of of the high horse and learn the past, there is always going to be problems BUT STAND UP AND SING HA-TIKVAN AND BE PROUD TO BE ABLE TO DO IT , IF NOT FOR YOURSELF BUT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO CAME BEFORE AND WAS NOT ALLOW TO BE JEWS IN A OPEN SOCIETY the problem is that we dont learn from our history. it has not been to long ago when we were fighting and yes dieing for everthing this new generation has in front of then. This new generation thinks that the SIX DAY WAR HAPPEN LONG TIME AGO. Yes it did but there are
people who are still alive to talk about this of THIS war. Get of of the high horse and learn the past, there is always going to be problems BUT STAND UP AND SING HA-TIKVAN AND BE PROUD TO BE ABLE TO DO IT , IF NOT FOR YOURSELF BUT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO CAME BEFORE AND WAS NOT ALLOW TO BE JEWS IN A OPEN SOCIETY

]]> By: Marilyn & Leonard Minkle http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2008/05/08/349/justice-60/#comment-2370 Marilyn & Leonard Minkle Fri, 09 May 2008 23:52:05 +0000 http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/?p=349#comment-2370 We are aghast at your short memories of Arab arsonists burning trees in Israel's forests, and the terrible act of Arabs tearing down greenhouses in Gaza. They could have been in good economic conditions if they had used what the Israelis left behind. Instead, they burn and destroy. Your trees could have been planted in honor of Israel's forests and greenhouses. We have nothing to atone for. It is time for our enemies to come to us with trees in their hands. We are aghast at your short memories of Arab arsonists burning trees in Israel’s forests, and the terrible act of Arabs tearing down greenhouses in Gaza. They could have been in good economic conditions if they had used what the Israelis left behind. Instead, they burn and destroy. Your trees could have been planted in honor of Israel’s forests and greenhouses. We have nothing to atone for. It is time for our enemies to come to us with trees in their hands.

]]> By: ralph http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2008/05/08/349/justice-60/#comment-2369 ralph Fri, 09 May 2008 21:00:50 +0000 http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/?p=349#comment-2369 what fools. they have learned nothing from history. through out our history such naive folks have been killed, lost every fight often by not fighting. these liberals and leftists are heading for the dust bin of history as have all the ones who went before them. they do not deserve our prayers nor our sympathy because they are dangerous deluded persons. we spent thousands of years asking others, being nice, seeking protection of those more powerful. that got us nowhere. only when we fought for our rights, our land did we achieve anything. my forebearers went out onto the roads to meet murdering cossacks who ran or lost when they showed up with sticks and stones. it was by beating up anti-semites in my school that it stoped not by cookies and parties. after a few lost fights some became friends and the others learned not to bother me/us or our friends. what fools. they have learned nothing from history. through out our history such naive folks have been killed, lost every fight often by not fighting. these liberals and leftists are heading for the dust bin of history as have all the ones who went before them. they do not deserve our prayers nor our sympathy because they are dangerous deluded persons.

we spent thousands of years asking others, being nice, seeking protection of those more powerful. that got us nowhere. only when we fought for our rights, our land did we achieve anything.

my forebearers went out onto the roads to meet murdering cossacks who ran or lost when they showed up with sticks and stones. it was by beating up anti-semites in my school that it stoped not by cookies and parties. after a few lost fights some became friends and the others learned not to bother me/us or our friends.

]]> By: Rabbi David Mivasair http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2008/05/08/349/justice-60/#comment-2367 Rabbi David Mivasair Fri, 09 May 2008 19:13:05 +0000 http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/?p=349#comment-2367 Why in the world would the writer think that singing Ha-Tikvah is an afterthought or that reading from Israel's Declaration of Independence is nothing other than "clever"? What chutzpah! Doesn't he have the capacity to imagine that the Declaration of Independence actually means something? . . . that it is the founding document of the State and that it articulates the vision they held for it? Is referencing that vision nothing more than "clever"? And could it not be possible that the members of RHR-NA (full disclosure: I am a member) are patriotic and sing Ha-Tikvah often and with deep feeling? Where in the world does the writer get off making comments like this? What a cynic! Why in the world would the writer think that singing Ha-Tikvah is an afterthought or that reading from Israel’s Declaration of Independence is nothing other than “clever”? What chutzpah! Doesn’t he have the capacity to imagine that the Declaration of Independence actually means something? . . . that it is the founding document of the State and that it articulates the vision they held for it? Is referencing that vision nothing more than “clever”? And could it not be possible that the members of RHR-NA (full disclosure: I am a member) are patriotic and sing Ha-Tikvah often and with deep feeling? Where in the world does the writer get off making comments like this? What a cynic!

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