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	<title>Comments on: Chabad: Reform bar mitzvahs are a racket</title>
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		<title>By: Akiva</title>
		<link>http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2007/11/01/52/chabad-reform-bar-mitzvahs-are-a-racket/#comment-1117</link>
		<dc:creator>Akiva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 05:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again Mr Tennebaum, you miss the point. A Jew is a Jew is a Jew. Rabbi Yoffe would be welcome at my Chabad Shul. I once went to a Reform synagogue for a Bar Mitzvah of a nephew. I had a great time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again Mr Tennebaum, you miss the point. A Jew is a Jew is a Jew. Rabbi Yoffe would be welcome at my Chabad Shul. I once went to a Reform synagogue for a Bar Mitzvah of a nephew. I had a great time.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Tenenbaum</title>
		<link>http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2007/11/01/52/chabad-reform-bar-mitzvahs-are-a-racket/#comment-557</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Tenenbaum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 21:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Chabadians feel good about themselves, that is great. But they should not denigrate other people.No one has that right, respect is due everyone and Ms Chana could easily have included the title for Rabbi Yoffie. When people do not show respect then it is easy to tell where they came from and their narrowness of mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Chabadians feel good about themselves, that is great. But they should not denigrate other people.No one has that right, respect is due everyone and Ms Chana could easily have included the title for Rabbi Yoffie. When people do not show respect then it is easy to tell where they came from and their narrowness of mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Akiva</title>
		<link>http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2007/11/01/52/chabad-reform-bar-mitzvahs-are-a-racket/#comment-389</link>
		<dc:creator>Akiva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alev, you are misinformed. Chabad accepts all Jews regardless of affiliation. I attend a Chabad Shul and members of the nearby Reform Synagouge also attend including their Rabbi and his family. No one puts the "moves" on them.
Chabad is a great supporter of Israel. Many hundreds of Chabdniks serve in the IDF and American armed forces.
Chabad does not endorse any "creepy beliefs" in the Rebbe. Each must decide on their own.
Last month the UJA had their annual convention with their largest attendance ever, over 3400. Chabad also had theirs with over 4000 in attendance. Wake up and smell the growth of Jewishness. Pick your flavor. Mazal tov!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alev, you are misinformed. Chabad accepts all Jews regardless of affiliation. I attend a Chabad Shul and members of the nearby Reform Synagouge also attend including their Rabbi and his family. No one puts the &#8220;moves&#8221; on them.<br />
Chabad is a great supporter of Israel. Many hundreds of Chabdniks serve in the IDF and American armed forces.<br />
Chabad does not endorse any &#8220;creepy beliefs&#8221; in the Rebbe. Each must decide on their own.<br />
Last month the UJA had their annual convention with their largest attendance ever, over 3400. Chabad also had theirs with over 4000 in attendance. Wake up and smell the growth of Jewishness. Pick your flavor. Mazal tov!</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Raeburn</title>
		<link>http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2007/11/01/52/chabad-reform-bar-mitzvahs-are-a-racket/#comment-304</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Raeburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>point by ALev point:

* Chabad accepts Judaism that upholds Shabbos, Kashrut, torah law, and helping out every single Jew --- that's true Judaism.  Chabad has no problem with any Jew.  The hope is that he/she will eventually come around to lighitn a candle, eating Kosher, respecting Shabbos.  That's the long/ short of it.

* Opposing 'efforts to make peace' IS being helpful: negotiating away land for nothing isn't peace.  You cannot negotiate with murderers.

* There is no hidden agenda.  Every Jew has to be given a chance to see Judaism in its true state unfettered by the curly-cues of a Judaism designed for comfort.  Every modernization, attempt at reform or departure from Torah-true Judaism has vanished like the Romans, the Greeks and the Nazis.  

Give Jews the REAL thing.  That's the essence of Chabad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>point by ALev point:</p>
<p>* Chabad accepts Judaism that upholds Shabbos, Kashrut, torah law, and helping out every single Jew &#8212; that&#8217;s true Judaism.  Chabad has no problem with any Jew.  The hope is that he/she will eventually come around to lighitn a candle, eating Kosher, respecting Shabbos.  That&#8217;s the long/ short of it.</p>
<p>* Opposing &#8216;efforts to make peace&#8217; IS being helpful: negotiating away land for nothing isn&#8217;t peace.  You cannot negotiate with murderers.</p>
<p>* There is no hidden agenda.  Every Jew has to be given a chance to see Judaism in its true state unfettered by the curly-cues of a Judaism designed for comfort.  Every modernization, attempt at reform or departure from Torah-true Judaism has vanished like the Romans, the Greeks and the Nazis.  </p>
<p>Give Jews the REAL thing.  That&#8217;s the essence of Chabad.</p>
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		<title>By: ALev</title>
		<link>http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2007/11/01/52/chabad-reform-bar-mitzvahs-are-a-racket/#comment-122</link>
		<dc:creator>ALev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 04:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chabad preys on unaffiliated Jews who don't understand the more unsavory aspects of the Lubavitch movement such as:

*  Chabad's refusal to accept any other form of Judaism as legitimate and equal in value to Chabad.  Not being ultra-Orthodox is fine as long as you are "getting there."  But the moment a Jew decides that their (non-Chabad) beliefs and observances are a good fit for their personal convictions, Chabad has a problem with you.

*  Chabad's unhelpful role in Israel.  They aren't Zionists, make no effort to advocate for Israel among non-Jews, and the rebbe refused to visit Israel.  Their Israeli followers refuse to serve in the Israeli military, yet they demand that their remote settlements recieve Israeli army protection, and oppose almost any sort of effort to make peace.

*  Their creepy beliefs about the rebbe.  They (or at least many of them) say he's the messiah and will return in a second coming!  21st Century Jews or 2nd Century Christians?

Their outreach efforts are great and should be emulated by Reform, Conservative, and modern Orthodox Jews.  No Jew should feel excluded from his faith and heritage.  But mainstream Jews should be very suspicious of their actual beliefs and hidden agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chabad preys on unaffiliated Jews who don&#8217;t understand the more unsavory aspects of the Lubavitch movement such as:</p>
<p>*  Chabad&#8217;s refusal to accept any other form of Judaism as legitimate and equal in value to Chabad.  Not being ultra-Orthodox is fine as long as you are &#8220;getting there.&#8221;  But the moment a Jew decides that their (non-Chabad) beliefs and observances are a good fit for their personal convictions, Chabad has a problem with you.</p>
<p>*  Chabad&#8217;s unhelpful role in Israel.  They aren&#8217;t Zionists, make no effort to advocate for Israel among non-Jews, and the rebbe refused to visit Israel.  Their Israeli followers refuse to serve in the Israeli military, yet they demand that their remote settlements recieve Israeli army protection, and oppose almost any sort of effort to make peace.</p>
<p>*  Their creepy beliefs about the rebbe.  They (or at least many of them) say he&#8217;s the messiah and will return in a second coming!  21st Century Jews or 2nd Century Christians?</p>
<p>Their outreach efforts are great and should be emulated by Reform, Conservative, and modern Orthodox Jews.  No Jew should feel excluded from his faith and heritage.  But mainstream Jews should be very suspicious of their actual beliefs and hidden agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: shimon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2007/11/01/52/chabad-reform-bar-mitzvahs-are-a-racket/#comment-101</link>
		<dc:creator>shimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chabad doesnt charge membership. Rarely charges for high holiday tickets or for any of their events. That is exactly why they have cultivated other revenue stream aka donations from individuals who feel jewish education and life  is more important than the status quo of the establishment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chabad doesnt charge membership. Rarely charges for high holiday tickets or for any of their events. That is exactly why they have cultivated other revenue stream aka donations from individuals who feel jewish education and life  is more important than the status quo of the establishment.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Schwartz</title>
		<link>http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2007/11/01/52/chabad-reform-bar-mitzvahs-are-a-racket/#comment-98</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Schwartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Conservative Rabbi (without a pulpit) I agree with Chabad on this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Conservative Rabbi (without a pulpit) I agree with Chabad on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Blustein</title>
		<link>http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2007/11/01/52/chabad-reform-bar-mitzvahs-are-a-racket/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Blustein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In any movement this has to be remembered...ayn kemakh ayn Torah. If Chabad didn't have their revenue streams (Kol HaKavod to them for their development), it would be more difficult to say the least for them to remain relavant in the marketplace of organized Judaism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In any movement this has to be remembered&#8230;ayn kemakh ayn Torah. If Chabad didn&#8217;t have their revenue streams (Kol HaKavod to them for their development), it would be more difficult to say the least for them to remain relavant in the marketplace of organized Judaism.</p>
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		<title>By: Raanan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2007/11/01/52/chabad-reform-bar-mitzvahs-are-a-racket/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Raanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BS"D
Way to go Chana!
Tell it like it is!!
Not only is "front loading" "Synagogue Dues" necessary for the Bar Mitzva culture of America, but a distinct lack of content is missing as well as what is REALLY necessary for a Bar Mitzva: 
Being Called up to the Torah for the first time, 
putting on Kosher tefillin 
and being able to daven with a minyan as a Jew has always done and will always do, long after history writes reform and conservative out of the History books as an "experiment that failed".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BS&#8221;D<br />
Way to go Chana!<br />
Tell it like it is!!<br />
Not only is &#8220;front loading&#8221; &#8220;Synagogue Dues&#8221; necessary for the Bar Mitzva culture of America, but a distinct lack of content is missing as well as what is REALLY necessary for a Bar Mitzva:<br />
Being Called up to the Torah for the first time,<br />
putting on Kosher tefillin<br />
and being able to daven with a minyan as a Jew has always done and will always do, long after history writes reform and conservative out of the History books as an &#8220;experiment that failed&#8221;.</p>
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