Comments on: Does the NYT Magazine have a Jewish problem? http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2007/10/25/41/does-the-nyt-magazine-have-a-jewish-problem/ Odds & ends from the staff of JTA Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:47:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Michael http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2007/10/25/41/does-the-nyt-magazine-have-a-jewish-problem/#comment-84 Michael Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:10:47 +0000 http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2007/10/25/does-the-nyt-magazine-have-a-jewish-problem/#comment-84 Correction: "...ask your brothers to (look) at your brothers and you will find your own enemy." I believe the true issue is one ignored. The problem conservative Jews refuse to look at seriously in context of the spiritual battle. You have a liberal Jewish lobby that bashes the only friend of Israel and it is a very powerful lobby. It bashes America, it bashes conservative Chritians, the very base most likely to support Israel. I feel sometimes I am watching Cybil on steroids. Miriam fighting Miriam. I love Israel and the Jewish people for so much gifts, not just material, but the spiritual gift. But I am confused by the hatred, the arrogance and thrashing by Hollywood studios, producers, actors, comedians, etc., Bill Maher, Jon Stuart Leibowitz, and it goes on and on. This is a spiritual battle and so far the conservative Jew is on the outside, complaining and whining against the liberals on all sides. Correction: “…ask your brothers to (look) at your brothers and you will find your own enemy.”

I believe the true issue is one ignored. The problem conservative Jews refuse to look at seriously in context of the spiritual battle.

You have a liberal Jewish lobby that bashes the only friend of Israel and it is a very powerful lobby. It bashes America, it bashes conservative Chritians, the very base most likely to support Israel.

I feel sometimes I am watching Cybil on steroids. Miriam fighting Miriam. I love Israel and the Jewish people for so much gifts, not just material, but the spiritual gift.

But I am confused by the hatred, the arrogance and thrashing by Hollywood studios, producers, actors, comedians, etc., Bill Maher, Jon Stuart Leibowitz, and it goes on and on.

This is a spiritual battle and so far the conservative Jew is on the outside, complaining and whining against the liberals on all sides.

]]> By: Michael http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2007/10/25/41/does-the-nyt-magazine-have-a-jewish-problem/#comment-83 Michael Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:03:48 +0000 http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2007/10/25/does-the-nyt-magazine-have-a-jewish-problem/#comment-83 Is Hollywood anti-American, anti-Christian, anti-conservative, anti-orthodox, anti-Israel? Does Sulzberger support all of these anti- stances? He sure does... and he is a Jew, so are the majority of Hollywood studio heads. Please, ask your brothers to at your brothers and you will find your own enemy. Is Hollywood anti-American, anti-Christian, anti-conservative, anti-orthodox, anti-Israel? Does Sulzberger support all of these anti- stances?

He sure does… and he is a Jew, so are the majority of Hollywood studio heads.

Please, ask your brothers to at your brothers and you will find your own enemy.

]]> By: alex golan http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2007/10/25/41/does-the-nyt-magazine-have-a-jewish-problem/#comment-50 alex golan Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:36:22 +0000 http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2007/10/25/does-the-nyt-magazine-have-a-jewish-problem/#comment-50 Mr. Eden, Israel and the Jewish people are facing diplomatic and terrorist attacks that threaten our very existence - Iranian nuclear weapons, Olmert's willingness to abandon Hebron and Jerusalem etc. And you are worried what some scribblers are concocting in a throw-away newspaper?? In case you haven't heard, the NYT has become an irrelevant nonentity outside the North-Eastern ghetto of the Jewish pesudo-intelligentsia. Since my parrot died I have not bought the NYT because I didn't need it for the birdcage. To all of you in the Boston-NYC-DC axis - go out and fight anti-Semitism where it is rampant, i.e. the Ivy League Schools, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and the Democratic Party. Don't waste your time on a newspaper that has become a dinosaur with an hypertrophied left wing. Mr. Eden,
Israel and the Jewish people are facing diplomatic and terrorist attacks that threaten our very existence - Iranian nuclear weapons, Olmert’s willingness to abandon Hebron and Jerusalem etc. And you are worried what some scribblers are concocting in a throw-away newspaper?? In case you haven’t heard, the NYT has become an irrelevant nonentity outside the North-Eastern ghetto of the Jewish pesudo-intelligentsia. Since my parrot died I have not bought the NYT because I didn’t need it for the birdcage. To all of you in the Boston-NYC-DC axis - go out and fight anti-Semitism where it is rampant, i.e. the Ivy League Schools, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and the Democratic Party. Don’t waste your time on a newspaper that has become a dinosaur with an hypertrophied left wing.

]]> By: Do I have a NYT Mag problem? - The Telegraph http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2007/10/25/41/does-the-nyt-magazine-have-a-jewish-problem/#comment-48 Do I have a NYT Mag problem? - The Telegraph Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:09:25 +0000 http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2007/10/25/does-the-nyt-magazine-have-a-jewish-problem/#comment-48 [...] a thoughtful response from the editor of the New Jersey Jewish News, Andrew Silow-Carroll, to my post on the NYT [...] [...] a thoughtful response from the editor of the New Jersey Jewish News, Andrew Silow-Carroll, to my post on the NYT [...]

]]> By: David Sternlight http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2007/10/25/41/does-the-nyt-magazine-have-a-jewish-problem/#comment-45 David Sternlight Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:39:32 +0000 http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2007/10/25/does-the-nyt-magazine-have-a-jewish-problem/#comment-45 Careless? Yes. Stupid? Certainly. Malicious? The failure to respond to a cricism supported by its own Public Editor certainly suggests so. That the Public Editor admits he has no enforcement powers is telling. At a minimum he should be able to compel a response from writers he feels have overstepped their bounds. That is not censorship, but journalistic responsibility. Should a writer refuse to respond on point, the Public Editor should have space in a prominent place on the editorial page to respond to fair criticism speaking officially for the Times. Careless? Yes.
Stupid? Certainly.
Malicious? The failure to respond to a cricism supported by its own Public Editor certainly suggests so.

That the Public Editor admits he has no enforcement powers is telling. At a minimum he should be able to compel a response from writers he feels have overstepped their bounds. That is not censorship, but journalistic responsibility. Should a writer refuse to respond on point, the Public Editor should have space in a prominent place on the editorial page to respond to fair criticism speaking officially for the Times.

]]> By: Steve Brizel http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2007/10/25/41/does-the-nyt-magazine-have-a-jewish-problem/#comment-43 Steve Brizel Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:44:56 +0000 http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2007/10/25/does-the-nyt-magazine-have-a-jewish-problem/#comment-43 The NY Times has had an assimilationist and decidedly anti Zionist point of view in its editorial , news and feature coverage since the Leo Frank trial, when its sympathy for Leo Frank caused the Ochs family concern that undue public outcry for Frank would lead to anti Semitism. The Times viewed Zionism as fascism and supported a bi-national state-Ochs and Judah Magnes supported each other's perspective. The Times' coverage of the Holocaust was nonexistent and its coverage of Israel, esp[ecially under Thomas Friedman and Debra Solomon, has always been disgraceful. The Feldman, Chaftetz and Traub articles, its tolerance of Islamofascists in our midst and its thumbs in the nose coverage of the Orthodox community's expansion into suburbia show a newspaper that is hostile to the Jewish community. The NY Times has had an assimilationist and decidedly anti Zionist point of view in its editorial , news and feature coverage since the Leo Frank trial, when its sympathy for Leo Frank caused the Ochs family concern that undue public outcry for Frank would lead to anti Semitism. The Times viewed Zionism as fascism and supported a bi-national state-Ochs and Judah Magnes supported each other’s perspective. The Times’ coverage of the Holocaust was nonexistent and its coverage of Israel, esp[ecially under Thomas Friedman and Debra Solomon, has always been disgraceful. The Feldman, Chaftetz and Traub articles, its tolerance of Islamofascists in our midst and its thumbs in the nose coverage of the Orthodox community’s expansion into suburbia show a newspaper that is hostile to the Jewish community.

]]> By: Stephen R. Jaffe http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2007/10/25/41/does-the-nyt-magazine-have-a-jewish-problem/#comment-42 Stephen R. Jaffe Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:18:09 +0000 http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2007/10/25/does-the-nyt-magazine-have-a-jewish-problem/#comment-42 The phrase "Jewish problem" is an unfortunate choice of words, as it is the same phrase used by Hitler during the Holocaust to justify genocide. I fail to see a substantive distinction between deliberately cropping subjects out of a photograph and deliberately selecting a photograph from which specific persons are absent. The result in either case is the same, i.e., the persons are erased from photographic existence. The phrase “Jewish problem” is an unfortunate choice of words, as it is the same phrase used by Hitler during the Holocaust to justify genocide.

I fail to see a substantive distinction between deliberately cropping subjects out of a photograph and deliberately selecting a photograph from which specific persons are absent. The result in either case is the same, i.e., the persons are erased from photographic existence.

]]> By: Herbert Grossman http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2007/10/25/41/does-the-nyt-magazine-have-a-jewish-problem/#comment-39 Herbert Grossman Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:29:11 +0000 http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2007/10/25/does-the-nyt-magazine-have-a-jewish-problem/#comment-39 It is not just the NY Times' Magazine, but the entire paper that is and has been anti-Jewish, dating back 3 generations when the publishing family was still Jewish and striving to disassociate itself from those "other" Jews. Now that the family is Episcopalian, it continues to hire only those Jews of like mind, like Thomas Friedman, Joel Greenberg, Clyde Haberman, etc., who denigrate Jews and/or the Jewish State so as to continue to prove that they are not typical Jews and the Times is not a "Jewish newspaper." Herb Grossman It is not just the NY Times’ Magazine, but the entire paper that is and has been anti-Jewish, dating back 3 generations when the publishing family was still Jewish and striving to disassociate itself from those “other” Jews. Now that the family is Episcopalian, it continues to hire only those Jews of like mind, like Thomas Friedman, Joel Greenberg, Clyde Haberman, etc., who denigrate Jews and/or the Jewish State so as to continue to prove that they are not typical Jews and the Times is not a “Jewish newspaper.”

Herb Grossman

]]> By: Alex Postallian http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2007/10/25/41/does-the-nyt-magazine-have-a-jewish-problem/#comment-15 Alex Postallian Sat, 27 Oct 2007 12:57:15 +0000 http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2007/10/25/does-the-nyt-magazine-have-a-jewish-problem/#comment-15 Yes, they are Jewish. Every group needs a moral cleansing every now and then. Its good for the soul and keeps us in bounds. like Foxman denying the Armenian Genocide issue.We dont deny the Holocaust. Those poor people we should be concerned about,not playing politics. Compish. Yes, they are Jewish. Every group needs a moral cleansing every now and then. Its good for the soul and keeps us in bounds. like Foxman denying the Armenian Genocide issue.We dont deny the Holocaust. Those poor people we should be concerned about,not playing politics. Compish.

]]> By: traps http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2007/10/25/41/does-the-nyt-magazine-have-a-jewish-problem/#comment-13 traps Sat, 27 Oct 2007 05:39:37 +0000 http://blogs.jta.org/telegraph/2007/10/25/does-the-nyt-magazine-have-a-jewish-problem/#comment-13 I feel that as Jews, with our history, we do tend to over-analyse each and every item relating to Jews and/or Israel. I believe we need to be slower to assume that every non-Jew is either anti-semitic or about to become one : http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2007/10/25/halle-berry-and-the-jewish-joke/ I feel that as Jews, with our history, we do tend to over-analyse each and every item relating to Jews and/or Israel.

I believe we need to be slower to assume that every non-Jew is either anti-semitic or about to become one :

http://www.thoughtleader.co.za.....wish-joke/

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