Feminist Jewess: Palin’s gonna screw ya! http://blogs.jta.org/ENTRY_PERMALINK_HERE/feminist-jewess-palins-gonna-screw-ya/ If you need a corrective after reading the Jewish NRA head’s scorching of Barack Obama for not knowing how to properly skin an animal, here’s Gloria Steinem’s account of why Sarah Palin would be a monumental setback for women. Palin: wrong woman, wrong message By Gloria Steinem September 4, 2008 Here’s the good news: Women have become so politically powerful that even the anti-feminist right wing – the folks with a headlock on the Republican Party – are trying to appease the gender gap with a first-ever female vice president. We owe this to women – and to many men too – who have picketed, gone on hunger strikes or confronted violence at the polls so women can vote. We owe it to Shirley Chisholm, who first took the “white-male-only” sign off the White House, and to Hillary Rodham Clinton, who hung in there through ridicule and misogyny to win 18 million votes. But here is even better news: It won’t work. This isn’t the first time a boss has picked an unqualified woman just because she agrees with him and opposes everything most other women want and need. Feminism has never been about getting a job for one woman. It’s about making life more fair for women everywhere. It’s not about a piece of the existing pie; there are too many of us for that. It’s about baking a new pie. Selecting Sarah Palin, who was touted all summer by Rush Limbaugh, is no way to attract most women, including die-hard Clinton supporters. Palin shares nothing but a chromosome with Clinton. Her down-home, divisive and deceptive speech did nothing to cosmeticize a Republican convention that has more than twice as many male delegates as female, a presidential candidate who is owned and operated by the right wing and a platform that opposes pretty much everything Clinton’s candidacy stood for – and that Barack Obama’s still does. To vote in protest for McCain/Palin would be like saying, “Somebody stole my shoes, so I’ll amputate my legs.” This is not to beat up on Palin. I defend her right to be wrong, even on issues that matter most to me. I regret that people say she can’t do the job because she has children in need of care, especially if they wouldn’t say the same about a father. I get no pleasure from imagining her in the spotlight on national and foreign policy issues about which she has zero background, with one month to learn to compete with Sen. Joe Biden’s 37 years’ experience. Palin has been honest about what she doesn’t know. When asked last month about the vice presidency, she said, “I still can’t answer that question until someone answers for me: What is it exactly that the VP does every day?” When asked about Iraq, she said, “I haven’t really focused much on the war in Iraq.” She was elected governor largely because the incumbent was unpopular, and she’s won over Alaskans mostly by using unprecedented oil wealth to give a $1,200 rebate to every resident. Now she is being praised by McCain’s campaign as a tax cutter, despite the fact that Alaska has no state income or sales tax. Perhaps McCain has opposed affirmative action for so long that he doesn’t know it’s about inviting more people to meet standards, not lowering them. Or perhaps McCain is following the Bush administration habit, as in the Justice Department, of putting a job candidate’s views on “God, guns and gays” ahead of competence. The difference is that McCain is filling a job one 72-year-old heartbeat away from the presidency. So let’s be clear: The culprit is John McCain. He may have chosen Palin out of change-envy, or a belief that women can’t tell the difference between form and content, but the main motive was to please right-wing ideologues; the same ones who nixed anyone who is now or ever has been a supporter of reproductive freedom. If that were not the case, McCain could have chosen a woman who knows what a vice president does and who has thought about Iraq; someone like Texas Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison or Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine. McCain could have taken a baby step away from right-wing patriarchs who determine his actions, right down to opposing the Violence Against Women Act. Palin’s value to those patriarchs is clear: She opposes just about every issue that women support by a majority or plurality. She believes that creationism should be taught in public schools but disbelieves global warming; she opposes gun control but supports government control of women’s wombs; she opposes stem cell research but approves “abstinence-only” programs, which increase unwanted births, sexually transmitted diseases and abortions; she tried to use taxpayers’ millions for a state program to shoot wolves from the air but didn’t spend enough money to fix a state school system with the lowest high-school graduation rate in the nation; she runs with a candidate who opposes the Fair Pay Act but supports $500 million in subsidies for a natural gas pipeline across Alaska; she supports drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Reserve, though even McCain has opted for the lesser evil of offshore drilling. She is Phyllis Schlafly, only younger. I don’t doubt her sincerity. As a lifetime member of the National Rifle Assn., she doesn’t just support killing animals from helicopters, she does it herself. She doesn’t just talk about increasing the use of fossil fuels but puts a coal-burning power plant in her own small town. She doesn’t just echo McCain’s pledge to criminalize abortion by overturning Roe vs. Wade, she says that if one of her daughters were impregnated by rape or incest, she should bear the child. She not only opposes reproductive freedom as a human right but implies that it dictates abortion, without saying that it also protects the right to have a child. So far, the major new McCain supporter that Palin has attracted is James Dobson of Focus on the Family. Of course, for Dobson, “women are merely waiting for their husbands to assume leadership,” so he may be voting for Palin’s husband. Being a hope-a-holic, however, I can see two long-term bipartisan gains from this contest. Republicans may learn they can’t appeal to right-wing patriarchs and most women at the same time. A loss in November could cause the centrist majority of Republicans to take back their party, which was the first to support the Equal Rights Amendment and should be the last to want to invite government into the wombs of women. And American women, who suffer more because of having two full-time jobs than from any other single injustice, finally have support on a national stage from male leaders who know that women can’t be equal outside the home until men are equal in it. Barack Obama and Joe Biden are campaigning on their belief that men should be, can be and want to be at home for their children. This could be huge. Gloria Steinem is an author, feminist organizer and co-founder of the Women’s Media Center. She supported Hillary Clinton and is now supporting Barack Obama. en-us aeden@jta.org Copyright 2008 2008-09-04T;21:23:20-05:00 Comment by dabronx2@ggmail.com yonason: I’m not going point-for-point because because it would take a lot of space for nothing. You don’t care, and anyone else who does can get plenty of info elsewhere. But go ahead, keep on raving about the Left. Maybe if do it hard and often enough, you’ll beat everyone into believing that Right is right, facts be damned. yonason:

I’m not going point-for-point because because it would take a lot of space for nothing. You don’t care, and anyone else who does can get plenty of info elsewhere.

But go ahead, keep on raving about the Left. Maybe if do it hard and often enough, you’ll beat everyone into believing that Right is right, facts be damned.

]]> 2012-02-10T;12:44:00-05:00 Comment by yonaton770@hotmail.com “I’m not going to bother going over it all point by point.”—steve Of course you aren’t, steve, because you can’t. All you can do is what any Leftist would do, accuse me of being wrong, proof be damned. It’s obvious from your nebulous empty accusations that you have nothing. Ciao! “I’m not going to bother going over it all point by point.”—steve

Of course you aren’t, steve, because you can’t. All you can do is what any Leftist would do, accuse me of being wrong, proof be damned.

It’s obvious from your nebulous empty accusations that you have nothing.

Ciao!

]]> 2012-02-10T;12:44:00-05:00 Comment by mary@inetmax.net Open Letter to Ms Steinhem; The feminist movement was and is about women being afforded the same rights and privledges as men.  Why then when one woman hits the top must you the self proclaimed champion of womens rights lower yourself to a cat fight. Women have long been responsible for holding other women back.  You have set the example of how women hold women back. I appluad G Ferraro for her gracious acknowledgements of a female republican party candidate.  I respect that H Clinton, cannot speak openly in this case as the Obama camp would cry she is still bitter about Obama winning, thus playing one more time the race card.  Palin is not playing a feminist card here.  She has not objected to the sexist remarks.  Which we all agree are sexist. Gloria, I will never support NOW until they position themselves bi-partisan, until they position themselves for womens rights, and applaud all women who achieve.  Women have the right to define themselves. They have the right to choose, be it housewife or a VP, pro-abortion or pro-life, democrat or republican.  Feminism was never about Steinhem think and never will be. my two cents Mary Putnam Open Letter to Ms Steinhem;

The feminist movement was and is about women being afforded the same rights and privledges as men.  Why then when one woman hits the top must you the self proclaimed champion of womens rights lower yourself to a cat fight.

Women have long been responsible for holding other women back.  You have set the example of how women hold women back.

I appluad G Ferraro for her gracious acknowledgements of a female republican party candidate.  I respect that H Clinton, cannot speak openly in this case as the Obama camp would cry she is still bitter about Obama winning, thus playing one more time the race card. 

Palin is not playing a feminist card here.  She has not objected to the sexist remarks.  Which we all agree are sexist.

Gloria, I will never support NOW until they position themselves bi-partisan, until they position themselves for womens rights, and applaud all women who achieve.  Women have the right to define themselves. They have the right to choose, be it housewife or a VP, pro-abortion or pro-life, democrat or republican.  Feminism was never about Steinhem think and never will be.

my two cents
Mary Putnam

]]> 2012-02-10T;12:44:00-05:00 Comment by hcossman@earthlink.net I understand why the feminists disagree with some of Sarah Palin’s views, like abortion, and I understand their disappointment at loosing Hillary as the first female President, or Vice President. But, now they have a real chance to elect the first ever female Vice President. A woman who exemplifies so many amazing qualities, including her successes and 85% approval rating as Alaska’s governor, mother of five, and the whole nine yards. In addition to breaking the glass ceiling, Palin can finally bring about tremendous reforms for women. As International abuses keep coming to light regarding women’s rights, including everything from burkas, to white slavery, to honor killings, you would certainly think that women would be tripping over themselves to elevate one of their own to such a high position. What a shame the feminists are so petty that they can’t see the big picture, set aside their conflicting grievances, and make a couple of concessions, in order to progress in such a big way. I understand why the feminists disagree with some of Sarah Palin’s views, like abortion, and I understand their disappointment at loosing Hillary as the first female President, or Vice President. But, now they have a real chance to elect the first ever female Vice President. A woman who exemplifies so many amazing qualities, including her successes and 85% approval rating as Alaska’s governor, mother of five, and the whole nine yards. In addition to breaking the glass ceiling, Palin can finally bring about tremendous reforms for women.
As International abuses keep coming to light regarding women’s rights, including everything from burkas, to white slavery, to honor killings, you would certainly think that women would be tripping over themselves to elevate one of their own to such a high position. What a shame the feminists are so petty that they can’t see the big picture, set aside their conflicting grievances, and make a couple of concessions, in order to progress in such a big way.

]]> 2012-02-10T;12:44:00-05:00 Comment by dabronx2@gmail.com yonason: The website you link to has a mix of facts, distortions, outright lies, and stupid mistakes that for sure don’t help its credibility. IOW, a typical Revisionist Zionist / Likud, and (maybe worse) amateur cocktail. I’m not going to bother going over it all point by point. Anybody who wants to know more can easily tap into the vast quantities of information available online and in real books. Not to mention in JTA’s news reports. But here’s the real bottom line: It’s time not for the losers of the 1948 war but for the winners to face facts. Israel exists. It’s not going away. It’s the major military power in the Middle East. Take a lesson from Rabin; get over the victim mentality and the desperate need for justification, and try treating the Palestinians like human beings. Most of them are ready, as Said was, to make deals for peace. If you think they’re bluffing, call their bluff and see what happens. What can it cost? Israel’s military and intelligence services will certainly not be going away before the Messiah comes. And about Sarah Palin: She’s an idiot. Teaching creationism as science? Global warming is a lie? Abstinence education works? Banning un-Christian books from the town library? Gimme a break. yonason:

The website you link to has a mix of facts, distortions, outright lies, and stupid mistakes that for sure don’t help its credibility. IOW, a typical Revisionist Zionist / Likud, and (maybe worse) amateur cocktail. I’m not going to bother going over it all point by point. Anybody who wants to know more can easily tap into the vast quantities of information available online and in real books. Not to mention in JTA’s news reports.

But here’s the real bottom line: It’s time not for the losers of the 1948 war but for the winners to face facts. Israel exists. It’s not going away. It’s the major military power in the Middle East. Take a lesson from Rabin; get over the victim mentality and the desperate need for justification, and try treating the Palestinians like human beings. Most of them are ready, as Said was, to make deals for peace. If you think they’re bluffing, call their bluff and see what happens. What can it cost? Israel’s military and intelligence services will certainly not be going away before the Messiah comes.

And about Sarah Palin: She’s an idiot. Teaching creationism as science? Global warming is a lie? Abstinence education works? Banning un-Christian books from the town library? Gimme a break.

]]> 2012-02-10T;12:44:00-05:00 Comment by yonaton@bellsouth.net That article appeared in the LA Times, and the comments there are quite astounding.  The vast majority of them rip Steinem apart. latimesblogs.latimes.com/comments_blog/2008/09/gloria-steinem.html in case that link doesn’t go thru, I’ll try something else, just add an “http://” in front of this “latimesblogs.latimes.com/comments_blog/2008/09/gloria-steinem.html” after deleting the quotes. That article appeared in the LA Times, and the comments there are quite astounding.  The vast majority of them rip Steinem apart.
latimesblogs.latimes.com/comments_blog/2008/09/gloria-steinem.html

in case that link doesn’t go thru, I’ll try something else, just add an “http://” in front of this “latimesblogs.latimes.com/comments_blog/2008/09/gloria-steinem.html” after deleting the quotes.

]]> 2012-02-10T;12:44:00-05:00 Comment by yonaton@bellsouth.net “Richard Dent” Sarah Palin, not bright? She’s a lot smarter than Obama or Biden, maybe both put together.  And Mean? Here’s Biden making a fool of himself with his racist remarks about Indians… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll_goH-aivU The Left doesn’t ever bring any facts to support their allegations, they just make stuff up, as I showed above that Ms. Steinem does, and hope people will believe them. “Richard Dent”

Sarah Palin, not bright? She’s a lot smarter than Obama or Biden, maybe both put together. 

And Mean? Here’s Biden making a fool of himself with his racist remarks about Indians…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll_goH-aivU

The Left doesn’t ever bring any facts to support their allegations, they just make stuff up, as I showed above that Ms. Steinem does, and hope people will believe them.

]]> 2012-02-10T;12:44:00-05:00 Comment by yonaton@bellsouth.net “Edward Said was not a terrorist or any other miscreant”—steve You can’t be serious??!!  For one thing, he invented the myth of the “Palestinian Peoplehood” and was the main proponent of viewing them as “victims” of the “fascist” Jews.  If you don’t know that, you have no business even discussing the topic.  Here’s a photo of him throwing rocks at Jews in Israe, along with a deconstruction of his despicable narrative. http://www.masada2000.org/said.html He’s been the source of the vilest lies about us, and hence the suffering that has led to. Please go and learn the facts before you make assertions about them. “Edward Said was not a terrorist or any other miscreant”—steve

You can’t be serious??!!  For one thing, he invented the myth of the “Palestinian Peoplehood” and was the main proponent of viewing them as “victims” of the “fascist” Jews.  If you don’t know that, you have no business even discussing the topic. 

Here’s a photo of him throwing rocks at Jews in Israe, along with a deconstruction of his despicable narrative.
http://www.masada2000.org/said.html

He’s been the source of the vilest lies about us, and hence the suffering that has led to.

Please go and learn the facts before you make assertions about them.

]]> 2012-02-10T;12:44:00-05:00 Comment by drumguy123@gmail.com I find it hard to believe that Steinem says feminism isn’t about one woman.  Her brand of it has been about just that.  Same for her comment about affirmative action.  Give me a break.  I actually used to identify with feminism, and still support opportunity (economic, family, social) for both men and women.  But Steinem is a poor spokesperson for anything but ego-driven upper middle and upper class women.  She loves to cite to Shirley Chisholm, but has little in common with her. I think Palin is a shallow, not-so-bright mean girl, but she can and has been criticized with far more depth and accuracy than Steimem’s self-referential jumbled prose. BTW:  I’m sticking with Obama, despite his slightly soft edges on Israel. I find it hard to believe that Steinem says feminism isn’t about one woman.  Her brand of it has been about just that.  Same for her comment about affirmative action.  Give me a break. 
I actually used to identify with feminism, and still support opportunity (economic, family, social) for both men and women.  But Steinem is a poor spokesperson for anything but ego-driven upper middle and upper class women.  She loves to cite to Shirley Chisholm, but has little in common with her.
I think Palin is a shallow, not-so-bright mean girl, but she can and has been criticized with far more depth and accuracy than Steimem’s self-referential jumbled prose.
BTW:  I’m sticking with Obama, despite his slightly soft edges on Israel.

]]> 2012-02-10T;12:44:00-05:00 Comment by dabronx2@gmail.com Oops. I got the Rashidi connection mixed up with another allegation about Obama that was false. Apologies. Debbie Schlussel’s unverified ravings about Obama are something else I won’t bother to comment on. I will say only that the late Edward Said was not a terrorist or any other miscreant, as Schlussel alleges with no more solid evidence than she has for anything else. His sitting at a table with Obama at a big dinner is not proof of any other association, let alone proof that either one is or was a terrorist. Oops. I got the Rashidi connection mixed up with another allegation about Obama that was false. Apologies.

Debbie Schlussel’s unverified ravings about Obama are something else I won’t bother to comment on. I will say only that the late Edward Said was not a terrorist or any other miscreant, as Schlussel alleges with no more solid evidence than she has for anything else. His sitting at a table with Obama at a big dinner is not proof of any other association, let alone proof that either one is or was a terrorist.

]]> 2012-02-10T;12:44:00-05:00 Comment by yonaton@bellsouth.net Steve Yes, he is friends with Khalidi, and they were colleagues. “His many talks with the Khalidis, Obama said, had been “consistent reminders to me of my own blind spots and my own biases… It’s for that reason that I’m hoping that, for many years to come, we continue that conversation—a conversation that is necessary not just around Mona and Rashid’s dinner table,” but around “this entire world.” ...While teaching at the University of Chicago, Khalidi and his wife lived in the Hyde Park neighborhood near the Obamas. The families became friends and dinner companions. http://www.gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/04/obama-bomber-ayers-partied-with-former.html See, also… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW4ZcY-VHA4 So what if Edward Said is dead?  He and Obama were friends, and they shared at least some ideological elements in common. http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/01/obamas_nation_o.html Steve

Yes, he is friends with Khalidi, and they were colleagues.

“His many talks with the Khalidis, Obama said, had been “consistent reminders to me of my own blind spots and my own biases… It’s for that reason that I’m hoping that, for many years to come, we continue that conversation—a conversation that is necessary not just around Mona and Rashid’s dinner table,” but around “this entire world.”

...While teaching at the University of Chicago, Khalidi and his wife lived in the Hyde Park neighborhood near the Obamas. The families became friends and dinner companions.
http://www.gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/04/obama-bomber-ayers-partied-with-former.html
See, also…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW4ZcY-VHA4

So what if Edward Said is dead?  He and Obama were friends, and they shared at least some ideological elements in common.
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/01/obamas_nation_o.html

]]> 2012-02-10T;12:44:00-05:00 Comment by kitchener@omdurman.org Regarding abortion, Obama’s support for infanticide (as shown by his sabotage of Illinois’ Born Alive Infant Protection Act) shows his total contempt for human life that happens to be inconvenient. Jerrold Nadler (D-NY, pro-choice) said of the Federal Born Alive Infant Protection Act, “There is no such thing as a right to a live birth abortion.” New slogan: “You don’t have to be pro-life to oppose live birth abortion. You just have to be human.” Regarding abortion, Obama’s support for infanticide (as shown by his sabotage of Illinois’ Born Alive Infant Protection Act) shows his total contempt for human life that happens to be inconvenient. Jerrold Nadler (D-NY, pro-choice) said of the Federal Born Alive Infant Protection Act, “There is no such thing as a right to a live birth abortion.”

New slogan: “You don’t have to be pro-life to oppose live birth abortion. You just have to be human.”

]]> 2012-02-10T;12:44:00-05:00 Comment by phone@mcquitty.net “Barack Obama and Joe Biden are campaigning on their belief that men should be, can be and want to be at home for their children.” If Ms. Palin is elected, her husband would likely be raising the children Ms. Steinem is so worried about.  Ironic, eh? “Barack Obama and Joe Biden are campaigning on their belief that men should be, can be and want to be at home for their children.”

If Ms. Palin is elected, her husband would likely be raising the children Ms. Steinem is so worried about. 

Ironic, eh?

]]> 2012-02-10T;12:44:00-05:00 Comment by dabronx2@gtmail.com yonason: Obama isn’t friends with Khalidi. For anyone to be friends with Said has been difficult since Said died. yonason:

Obama isn’t friends with Khalidi. For anyone to be friends with Said has been difficult since Said died.

]]> 2012-02-10T;12:44:00-05:00 Comment by dabronx2@gtmail.com Calling Gloria Steinem a Jewess is a stretch. Her father was Jewish, her mother was not, and she herself is not known to belong to any religious body. (None of which has anything to do with her view of Sarah Palin). Calling Gloria Steinem a Jewess is a stretch. Her father was Jewish, her mother was not, and she herself is not known to belong to any religious body. (None of which has anything to do with her view of Sarah Palin).

]]> 2012-02-10T;12:44:00-05:00 Comment by dan@yoursash.com After watching McCain’s speech just now, I’m really hoping Obama and Biden can pull it through in November. Dan, Graduation Stoles After watching McCain’s speech just now, I’m really hoping Obama and Biden can pull it through in November.

Dan,
Graduation Stoles

]]> 2012-02-10T;12:44:00-05:00 Comment by gypsy_bb@yahoo.com I agree that the only real problem Gloria has with Sarah is abortion, which is less about a woman’s choice and more about LIFE or the taking of one. It is a woman’s choice to use birth control and not get pregnant. It is not a choice to take a life once conceived. I dare to say, had Obama chosen Palin as his running mate, the libs would be singing a different song right now. They feel threatened by her, and rightly so. Sarah, you go, girl! I agree that the only real problem Gloria has with Sarah is abortion, which is less about a woman’s choice and more about LIFE or the taking of one. It is a woman’s choice to use birth control and not get pregnant. It is not a choice to take a life once conceived.

I dare to say, had Obama chosen Palin as his running mate, the libs would be singing a different song right now. They feel threatened by her, and rightly so.

Sarah, you go, girl!

]]> 2012-02-10T;12:44:00-05:00 Comment by yonaton@bellsouth.net AND ANOTHER THING, MR. INGALLS You accuse Americans of wanting “...to yell and bomb a.k.a. Georgie.” That’s the typical doublespeak the opponents of the Right throw out all the time.  We aren’t yelling, nor do we wish to bomb Georgia.  We are the ones who want the Soviets, uh, I mean Russians, to stop bombing Georgia http://www.sultanknish.blogspot.com/2008/08/russias-war-of-destruction-against.html What you are really saying is that America is wrong to oppose the Russians to save a Democracy.  Which means that what you are really ultimately saying is that America is wrong to support Israel in the war our enemies are waging against us Jews. And that’s another bone of contention with Ms. Steinem and others like her, that their falsehoods afford our enemies many platforms to build on. AND ANOTHER THING, MR. INGALLS

You accuse Americans of wanting “...to yell and bomb a.k.a. Georgie.”

That’s the typical doublespeak the opponents of the Right throw out all the time.  We aren’t yelling, nor do we wish to bomb Georgia.  We are the ones who want the Soviets, uh, I mean Russians, to stop bombing Georgia
http://www.sultanknish.blogspot.com/2008/08/russias-war-of-destruction-against.html

What you are really saying is that America is wrong to oppose the Russians to save a Democracy.  Which means that what you are really ultimately saying is that America is wrong to support Israel in the war our enemies are waging against us Jews.

And that’s another bone of contention with Ms. Steinem and others like her, that their falsehoods afford our enemies many platforms to build on.

]]> 2012-02-10T;12:44:00-05:00 Comment by yonaton@bellsouth.net It seems that my post with this link was deleted, so let me try again, even though I think I may be shoveling against the tide, as it were.  Still, it’s information that Jews, especially, need to see.  Mr Biden has a record, and it’s not one I would expect for a “friend” of Israel. http://www.astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/08/joe-biden-wrong-on-iran-inconsistent-on.html It seems that my post with this link was deleted, so let me try again, even though I think I may be shoveling against the tide, as it were.  Still, it’s information that Jews, especially, need to see.  Mr Biden has a record, and it’s not one I would expect for a “friend” of Israel.
http://www.astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/08/joe-biden-wrong-on-iran-inconsistent-on.html

]]> 2012-02-10T;12:44:00-05:00 Comment by bamboozled63@hotmail.com The pathetic feminists with their anti Palin rants have only one issue with her......she don’t like abortion.  And as for their rants about all those rights they fought for pushing back the evil male dominated anti female system of the past...LOL Have a look at them....the speak about moral and cultural relativism and stick up for cultures that stone woman to death, imprison them in the house...make them totally subservient in every way because.......all cultures are equal......well baby.....that means the old male dominated system that you “apparently” fought was also just another expression of culture and that your fight against it was just wrong and evil and bigoted.  Does anybody really listen to feminists anymore...they fight against the only men and culture that have given women more rights then any culture in human history.......our culture....their culture.......and why......well...lets face it....there isn’t much more evil then sucking the brains out of a baby as it comes out is there.....guess when your that evil.....every other evil is just relative......less then them. The pathetic feminists with their anti Palin rants have only one issue with her......she don’t like abortion.  And as for their rants about all those rights they fought for pushing back the evil male dominated anti female system of the past...LOL

Have a look at them....the speak about moral and cultural relativism and stick up for cultures that stone woman to death, imprison them in the house...make them totally subservient in every way because.......all cultures are equal......well baby.....that means the old male dominated system that you “apparently” fought was also just another expression of culture and that your fight against it was just wrong and evil and bigoted. 

Does anybody really listen to feminists anymore...they fight against the only men and culture that have given women more rights then any culture in human history.......our culture....their culture.......and why......well...lets face it....there isn’t much more evil then sucking the brains out of a baby as it comes out is there.....guess when your that evil.....every other evil is just relative......less then them.

]]> 2012-02-10T;12:44:00-05:00 Comment by yonaton@bellsouth.net The point, Richard Ingalls, which you are so quick to attempt to deflect, is that Ms. Steinem is not above the abuse of facts to make her point.  That is dishonest, as is deflecting legitimate criticism. Steinem’s claim that Palin “puts a coal-burning power plant in her own small town.” is also FALSE.  Is Steinem talking about the PROPOSED coal-fired plant to be ready by 2015 that the local Electric Co., wants to build? ...and which all the local mayor can do is ensure the company is complying with existing regulations?  ...and which occurred after she left office as mayor? One more faux “fact” concocted by Ms. Steinem. And you still trust that women? The point, Richard Ingalls, which you are so quick to attempt to deflect, is that Ms. Steinem is not above the abuse of facts to make her point.  That is dishonest, as is deflecting legitimate criticism.

Steinem’s claim that Palin “puts a coal-burning power plant in her own small town.” is also FALSE. 

Is Steinem talking about the PROPOSED coal-fired plant to be ready by 2015 that the local Electric Co., wants to build? ...and which all the local mayor can do is ensure the company is complying with existing regulations?  ...and which occurred after she left office as mayor?

One more faux “fact” concocted by Ms. Steinem.

And you still trust that women?

]]> 2012-02-10T;12:44:00-05:00 Comment by yonaton@bellsouth.net If Steinam were honest, she wouldn’t just write a hit-piece on Palin, she would compare her with Biden.  But then, that might just not work for her, because Biden’s record on Israel isn’t so Kosher. URL minus “http://” is “yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2008/08/biden-threatened-to-cut-off-aid-to.html” URL minus “http://” is “astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/08/joe-biden-wrong-on-iran-inconsistent-on.html” If Steinam were honest, she wouldn’t just write a hit-piece on Palin, she would compare her with Biden.  But then, that might just not work for her, because Biden’s record on Israel isn’t so Kosher.

URL minus “http://” is “yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2008/08/biden-threatened-to-cut-off-aid-to.html”

URL minus “http://” is “astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/08/joe-biden-wrong-on-iran-inconsistent-on.html”

]]> 2012-02-10T;12:44:00-05:00 Comment by yonaton@bellsouth.net If Steinam were honest, she wouldn’t just write a hit-piece on Palin, she would compare her with Biden.  But then, that might just not work for her, because Biden’s record on Israel isn’t so Kosher. http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2008/08/biden-threatened-to-cut-off-aid-to.html http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/08/joe-biden-wrong-on-iran-inconsistent-on.html If Steinam were honest, she wouldn’t just write a hit-piece on Palin, she would compare her with Biden.  But then, that might just not work for her, because Biden’s record on Israel isn’t so Kosher.

http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2008/08/biden-threatened-to-cut-off-aid-to.html

http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/08/joe-biden-wrong-on-iran-inconsistent-on.html

]]> 2012-02-10T;12:44:00-05:00 Comment by yonaton@bellsouth.net McCain isn’t friends with the likes of Rashid Khalidi or Edward Said, Obama is.  Sarah Palin never advocated cutting off funds to Israel, Joe Biden has.  Get ALL the facts, then vote with your heads! McCain isn’t friends with the likes of Rashid Khalidi or Edward Said, Obama is. 

Sarah Palin never advocated cutting off funds to Israel, Joe Biden has. 

Get ALL the facts, then vote with your heads!

]]> 2012-02-10T;12:44:00-05:00 Comment by marywehrle@jvschicago.org GOOD RESPONSE BY STEINAHM. FOR THESE REPUBLICANS IT IS JUST A GIMMICK. I DON’T WANT TO “JUST LOVE” THE VP OF THE US. GOOD RESPONSE BY STEINAHM. FOR THESE REPUBLICANS IT IS JUST A GIMMICK. I DON’T WANT TO “JUST LOVE” THE VP OF THE US.

]]> 2012-02-10T;12:44:00-05:00 Comment by liza.shurik@gmail.com So nice to hear a reasonable argument. I am sick of hearing women who say “I was going to vote for Hillary, but now that John McCain has a woman...” That is chauvinism just like any other. I wish women would start voting with their heads and not their uterus. Thank you Ms. Steinem! So nice to hear a reasonable argument. I am sick of hearing women who say “I was going to vote for Hillary, but now that John McCain has a woman...” That is chauvinism just like any other. I wish women would start voting with their heads and not their uterus. Thank you Ms. Steinem!

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]]> 2012-02-10T;12:44:00-05:00 Comment by reingalls123@yahoo.com Why focus on killing animals from the air when Palin is killing the humans and animals by having a coal fired electric generating plant in her back yard.  Thus we can assume that our back yards are also fair game for the Republican goal of more coal and less control on what is emitted from the smokestacks of those coal fired plants.  And that is a minor issue.  Man or woman, I want someone who’s first inclination is to find creative ways to solve international problems, not to yell and bomb a.k.a. Georgie. Why focus on killing animals from the air when Palin is killing the humans and animals by having a coal fired electric generating plant in her back yard.  Thus we can assume that our back yards are also fair game for the Republican goal of more coal and less control on what is emitted from the smokestacks of those coal fired plants.  And that is a minor issue.  Man or woman, I want someone who’s first inclination is to find creative ways to solve international problems, not to yell and bomb a.k.a. Georgie.

]]> 2012-02-10T;12:44:00-05:00 Comment by yonaton@bellsouth.net Ms. Steinem talks a lot, but says little, and what she does say isn’t factually correct.  She appeals to fear, not reason.  For example, her “she doesn’t just support killing animals from helicopters, she does it herself.” is false.  From a Slate article we find the truth… “Do people in Alaska really shoot wolves from planes?  Yes, but only with the government’s permission.” All animal hunting from the air is against Federal Law with the EXCEPTION under certain conditions, OF DANGEROUS PREDATORS, and then ONLY with specific permits from the State on a case-by-case basis. Palin doesn’t go wolf hunting. If Steinam doesn’t know the facts, she shouldn’t be making them up. Ms. Steinem talks a lot, but says little, and what she does say isn’t factually correct.  She appeals to fear, not reason. 

For example, her “she doesn’t just support killing animals from helicopters, she does it herself.” is false.  From a Slate article we find the truth… “Do people in Alaska really shoot wolves from planes?  Yes, but only with the government’s permission.”

All animal hunting from the air is against Federal Law with the EXCEPTION under certain conditions, OF DANGEROUS PREDATORS, and then ONLY with specific permits from the State on a case-by-case basis. Palin doesn’t go wolf hunting. If Steinam doesn’t know the facts, she shouldn’t be making them up.

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