More support for an Iran strike than you probably thought http://blogs.jta.org/ENTRY_PERMALINK_HERE/more-support-for-iran-strike-than-you-probably-thought/ The Israel Project released a poll this afternoon finding that 55 percent of Americans would approve of the “United States and its allies making targeted conventional military strikes against Iran’s nuclear weapons facilities” – a surprisingly high number considering the opposition generated by the war in Iraq. At a press conference announcing the findings – which technically were 33 percent strongly approving and an additional 22 percent somewhat approving – pollster Frank Luntz suggested that the reason was simply that “Iran scares people.” “He is the most frightening world leader,” said Luntz of Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and Americans are disturbed by his threats. An Israeli attack on Iranian nuclear facilities is less popular among Americans, with only 43 percent approving and 48 percent disapproving. But if economic and diplomatic sanctions fail and Iran acquires nuclear capability, the approval number rises to 63 percent. Still, there was a great deal of support for diplomacy, with 62 percent saying an “opportunity for a diplomatic solution still exists.” Luntz also presented research on the language of the presidential candidates on Iran and Israel. Using a technique he is frequently seen utilizing on cable television news channels, focus groups turn a dial in a positive or negative direction to signal their opinion on the words being said by the candidate. He showed the groups of voters, half leaning Republican and half leaning Democrat, portions of the candidates’ speeches at this year’s AIPAC policy conference. He noted that voters partcularly like when candidates present specific details on the Iranian threat, as Barack Obama did in his speech. He said that Hillary Clinton’s strong statement of “no nuclear weapons for Iran” received over 90 percent approval from both sides of the aisle – something he had never seen before. And he said John McCain gets significantly lower numbers from Democrats than Republicans when he talks about Iran because “he reminds them of George W. Bush.” The survey of 800 likely voters was conducted by telephone in late July by Neil Newhouse of Public Opinion Strategies and Stan Greenberg of Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research. The margin of error was plus or minus 3.5 percent. en-us efingerhut@jta.org Copyright 2008 2008-08-28T;05:15:59-05:00 Comment by Armageddie@gmail.com Everybody I associate with is in favor of the attack on Iran and a few are even in favor of an attack on Russia. Whatever the cost, Israel should be protected. God will bless those that bless Israel and curse those that curse Israel. Yeah, I’m one of those Christian Fundies. You don’t like it, TOUGH!!! Everybody I associate with is in favor of the attack on Iran and a few are even in favor of an attack on Russia. Whatever the cost, Israel should be protected. God will bless those that bless Israel and curse those that curse Israel. Yeah, I’m one of those Christian Fundies. You don’t like it, TOUGH!!!

]]> 2009-11-20T;15:25:00-05:00 Comment by jskjelver@gmail.com “The Israel Project released a poll this afternoon finding that 55 percent of Americans would approve of the “United States and its allies making targeted conventional military strikes against Iran’s nuclear weapons facilities” This is complete bullshit.  Americans do NOT support an attack on Iran. “The Israel Project released a poll this afternoon finding that 55 percent of Americans would approve of the “United States and its allies making targeted conventional military strikes against Iran’s nuclear weapons facilities”

This is complete bullshit.  Americans do NOT support an attack on Iran.

]]> 2009-11-20T;15:25:00-05:00 Comment by Heman55@Hotmail.com Mark S. Devenow, Esq. I have a hard time believing that you are a real lawyer, why do you attack my mental capacity without any evidentiary proof?  Nonetheless, I am not even going to go there and start listing out my credentials (which among them does include being an attorney).  Lets play a game, since you went to law school you must be familiar with the premise and logic game; now you call me an anti-semite, what is the premise and logic you base this off?  I have no issues with Judaism, as a matter of fact I have relatives and close friends that practice it, but you come to the conclusion that just because one does not support Israel or Zionism then they must be an anti-semite. People like yourself need to be more open-minded and realize that not everyone is against you just b/c they do not support your view point or your country (Israel).  I can most likely for certain ascertain from your posts that you are anti-arab, (mind you that I am not an Arab).  The real racist here is you, you need to realize that just b/c someone does not give a damn about Zionism causes that does not make them anti-semitic.  It’s like me saying that whomever hates the current Iranian government also hates all Iranians.  So please stop attacking Mary and Hamid and take a look at yourself. Mark S. Devenow, Esq.

I have a hard time believing that you are a real lawyer, why do you attack my mental capacity without any evidentiary proof?  Nonetheless, I am not even going to go there and start listing out my credentials (which among them does include being an attorney). 

Lets play a game, since you went to law school you must be familiar with the premise and logic game; now you call me an anti-semite, what is the premise and logic you base this off?  I have no issues with Judaism, as a matter of fact I have relatives and close friends that practice it, but you come to the conclusion that just because one does not support Israel or Zionism then they must be an anti-semite.

People like yourself need to be more open-minded and realize that not everyone is against you just b/c they do not support your view point or your country (Israel).  I can most likely for certain ascertain from your posts that you are anti-arab, (mind you that I am not an Arab).  The real racist here is you, you need to realize that just b/c someone does not give a damn about Zionism causes that does not make them anti-semitic.  It’s like me saying that whomever hates the current Iranian government also hates all Iranians. 

So please stop attacking Mary and Hamid and take a look at yourself.

]]> 2009-11-20T;15:25:00-05:00 Comment by fuckyoufrank@aol.com FUCK YOU, FRANK! FUCK YOU, FRANK!

]]> 2009-11-20T;15:25:00-05:00 Comment by attymsd@gmail.com Mary, like Hamid your startling lack of knowledge, reliance on unguided/unrefined supposition ex cathedra, willingness to jump to unwarranted conclusions and ability to ignore manifest evidence which runs counter to your prejudices (most notably antisemitism in your case, Mary) marks you for being, ... shall we say less than a rocket scientist. I can only hope that the rest of the antisemites (who for some reason unknown seem to have alighted in a curious chorus upon the JTA post comment space, have the same mental capacities as Mary and Hamid respectively display. Mary, like Hamid your startling lack of knowledge, reliance on unguided/unrefined supposition ex cathedra, willingness to jump to unwarranted conclusions and ability to ignore manifest evidence which runs counter to your prejudices (most notably antisemitism in your case, Mary) marks you for being, ... shall we say less than a rocket scientist. I can only hope that the rest of the antisemites (who for some reason unknown seem to have alighted in a curious chorus upon the JTA post comment space, have the same mental capacities as Mary and Hamid respectively display.

]]> 2009-11-20T;15:25:00-05:00 Comment by margaret@countryswedish.com I don’t trust Frank Luntz one bit.  If the questions had been asked differently, without the use of misleading language, the outcome would have been far different. For example, if those polled had been asked if it meant them paying $10 per gallon for gas and heating oil would they be willing to strike Iran, what do you think their answers would have been? I don’t trust Frank Luntz one bit. 

If the questions had been asked differently, without the use of misleading language, the outcome would have been far different.

For example, if those polled had been asked if it meant them paying $10 per gallon for gas and heating oil would they be willing to strike Iran, what do you think their answers would have been?

]]> 2009-11-20T;15:25:00-05:00 Comment by margaret@countryswedish.com I am “impelled” to jump in here and agree with Hamid on all counts. First of all, this poll asks if those polled approve of strikes against Iran’s “nuclear weapons facilities”.  That assumes that they even have nuclear weapons facilities.  As of now, it has only been determined that they have refinement facilities that the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty allows, a treaty that both the US & Iran have signed. I am “impelled” to jump in here and agree with Hamid on all counts.

First of all, this poll asks if those polled approve of strikes against Iran’s “nuclear weapons facilities”.  That assumes that they even have nuclear weapons facilities.  As of now, it has only been determined that they have refinement facilities that the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty allows, a treaty that both the US & Iran have signed.

]]> 2009-11-20T;15:25:00-05:00 Comment by Heman55@Hotmail.com “...that it is your brethern who seem to be reaping the windfall off the misfortune you allude to...” Actually OPEC is only a part of the problem with high gas prices, the main catalyst are speculators.  Also last time I checked Haliburton and oil companies such as Exxon have posted record profits each quarter for the last 3 years.  Sorry Mark, but your point lacks basic logic, all people like you care about is the survival of Israel (your real brethren) not the average American.  Why do you still continue to use “Esq.” after your name? Do you sign all of your letters like that as well? “...that it is your brethern who seem to be reaping the windfall off the misfortune you allude to...”

Actually OPEC is only a part of the problem with high gas prices, the main catalyst are speculators.  Also last time I checked Haliburton and oil companies such as Exxon have posted record profits each quarter for the last 3 years.  Sorry Mark, but your point lacks basic logic, all people like you care about is the survival of Israel (your real brethren) not the average American.  Why do you still continue to use “Esq.” after your name? Do you sign all of your letters like that as well?

]]> 2009-11-20T;15:25:00-05:00 Comment by asdsa@aol.com Its Frank Luntz. I wouldn’t believe his poll at all since he is a professional manipulator. He even wrote a book on it. He’s also a pro-Israel Neocon and frankly they have no credibility but be sure that our media will swallow this garbage. Israel matters more than anything our politicians. America is a distant third behind Israel and Iraq. People are losing homes, the automakers are finished, oil through the roof and all the Jews want is another stupid wasteful war. Its Frank Luntz. I wouldn’t believe his poll at all since he is a professional manipulator. He even wrote a book on it. He’s also a pro-Israel Neocon and frankly they have no credibility but be sure that our media will swallow this garbage. Israel matters more than anything our politicians. America is a distant third behind Israel and Iraq. People are losing homes, the automakers are finished, oil through the roof and all the Jews want is another stupid wasteful war.

]]> 2009-11-20T;15:25:00-05:00 Comment by nothx@yahoo.com It cannot be better in the long run if don’t strike. Once these hotshots get their nukes, ludicrous demands and claims will follow...and wars. It cannot be better in the long run if don’t strike. Once these hotshots get their nukes, ludicrous demands and claims will follow...and wars.

]]> 2009-11-20T;15:25:00-05:00 Comment by attymsd@gmail.com Hamid - Being the “pompous” individual that I am, I’m impelled to point out, relative to the specific lament you express concerning the onerous gas prices Americans face at the pump, that it is your brethern who seem to be reaping the windfall off the misfortune you allude to. I, of course, don’t expect you to appreciate the incongruity whereof the sheiks of this world, ruling over lands of abundant material resource but utterly bereft of human spirit and talent, hold the cards over the heads of American consumers, but ... Hamid -
Being the “pompous” individual that I am, I’m impelled to point out, relative to the specific lament you express concerning the onerous gas prices Americans face at the pump, that it is your brethern who seem to be reaping the windfall off the misfortune you allude to. I, of course, don’t expect you to appreciate the incongruity whereof the sheiks of this world, ruling over lands of abundant material resource but utterly bereft of human spirit and talent, hold the cards over the heads of American consumers, but ...

]]> 2009-11-20T;15:25:00-05:00 Comment by algoodman@sympatico.ca Barrack Obama stated in the primaries that he is prepared to meet, discuss and arrange accords with Achmendinijad of Iran. History shows this very same approach was done by Neville Chamberlain the Prime Minister of England only with Hitler of Germany. He reached an accord with Hitler and came back to England waving a document and calling it “Peace In Our Time. We all know what happened! The second World War and the attempted eradication of the Jewish race. Obama wants to act same as and will end up the Neville Chamberlain of our time. Barrack Obama stated in the primaries that he is prepared to meet, discuss and arrange accords with Achmendinijad of Iran. History shows this very same approach was done by Neville Chamberlain the Prime Minister of England only with Hitler of Germany. He reached an accord with Hitler and came back to England waving a document and calling it “Peace In Our Time. We all know what happened! The second World War and the attempted eradication of the Jewish race.

Obama wants to act same as and will end up the Neville Chamberlain of our time.

]]> 2009-11-20T;15:25:00-05:00 Comment by Heman55@Hotmail.com Mark, how tacky too place “Esq.” after your name.  Are you really that much of a pompus individual?  I don’t understand why America has to do Israel’s dirty work?  At what cost is too much for the Americans to keep supporting Zionisom causes, the average American cares about paying the mortgage, feeding their kids and filling up their gas tank, and not what the Israeli lobbyists agendas are down in Washington or over in Tel Aviv. Mark, how tacky too place “Esq.” after your name.  Are you really that much of a pompus individual?  I don’t understand why America has to do Israel’s dirty work?  At what cost is too much for the Americans to keep supporting Zionisom causes, the average American cares about paying the mortgage, feeding their kids and filling up their gas tank, and not what the Israeli lobbyists agendas are down in Washington or over in Tel Aviv.

]]> 2009-11-20T;15:25:00-05:00 Comment by daniel.eder@yahoo.com all military instalations should be bombed in iran.. the rest i wouldnt worry about. all military instalations should be bombed in iran.. the rest i wouldnt worry about.

]]> 2009-11-20T;15:25:00-05:00 Comment by attymsd@gmail.com Amazing!!! Antisemites and leftists (insofar as the two categories remain distinguishable in this day and age) seem to have glommed on to the JTA and unburdened themselves of puerile exegesis consisting of ignorance on steroids. For my part, I find the Luntz numbers more interesting on their face than anything which has followed as commentary on the site where they are displayed. The Luntz survey seems to signify that when the time comes - as it assuredly will - where a decision has to be made concerning bombing Iranian nuclear weapons facilities, an American President with the courage to make the right decision (necessarily bucking some of the prominent uniformed service bureaucrats and striped pants Arabists in the State Department) will enjoy sufficient public support going in to see the mission through. Too bad that only one candidate presents the character to be up to the task. Amazing!!! Antisemites and leftists (insofar as the two categories remain distinguishable in this day and age) seem to have glommed on to the JTA and unburdened themselves of puerile exegesis consisting of ignorance on steroids. For my part, I find the Luntz numbers more interesting on their face than anything which has followed as commentary on the site where they are displayed. The Luntz survey seems to signify that when the time comes - as it assuredly will - where a decision has to be made concerning bombing Iranian nuclear weapons facilities, an American President with the courage to make the right decision (necessarily bucking some of the prominent uniformed service bureaucrats and striped pants Arabists in the State Department) will enjoy sufficient public support going in to see the mission through. Too bad that only one candidate presents the character to be up to the task.

]]> 2009-11-20T;15:25:00-05:00 Comment by Scuba_elf@hotmail.com If the US does attack Iran, It will only be to divert attention from a US invasion in Russia, or something along that line. We have the technology and the weapons to completely destroy the world… we could of sent a CIA or NSA agent and had Sadam assasinated, totally undetected. but we decide to bring in some of our most out of date and worthless equipment to put on a charade to cover up… what? but we will find out! (12-21-2012) If the US does attack Iran, It will only be to divert attention from a US invasion in Russia, or something along that line. We have the technology and the weapons to completely destroy the world… we could of sent a CIA or NSA agent and had Sadam assasinated, totally undetected. but we decide to bring in some of our most out of date and worthless equipment to put on a charade to cover up… what? but we will find out! (12-21-2012)

]]> 2009-11-20T;15:25:00-05:00 Comment by rafique101@gmial.com I completely agree with Hamid. A country which lacks sufficient knowledge in history and politics, pollsters should quit surveying for inaccurate and worthless public opinion. people, bombing Iran will unleash the devil like never before. Grab food and a blanket and head for the woods if Iran gets bombed. I completely agree with Hamid.

A country which lacks sufficient knowledge in history and politics, pollsters should quit surveying for inaccurate and worthless public opinion.

people, bombing Iran will unleash the devil like never before. Grab food and a blanket and head for the woods if Iran gets bombed.

]]> 2009-11-20T;15:25:00-05:00 Comment by gattta19@o2.pl Why is Israel always wants to fight with with Iran and palstinian, they have done nothing to Israel nation.It may be they dont know that it was Germany who killed 6000.000 jaws. But it seems that was ok with Israel, because they are in very good relation with each other. and now plastine who has done nothing to you, and you occupied their land and you killed their family and killing everyday those poor people. and now you want to fight Iran (BAD NEWS) Why is Israel always wants to fight with with Iran and palstinian, they have done nothing to Israel nation.It may be they dont know that it was Germany who killed 6000.000 jaws. But it seems that was ok with Israel, because they are in very good relation with each other. and now plastine who has done nothing to you, and you occupied their land and you killed their family and killing everyday those poor people.
and now you want to fight Iran (BAD NEWS)

]]> 2009-11-20T;15:25:00-05:00 Comment by Heman55@Hotmail.com I question the integrity of this poll, unless the sample population was strictly from Brooklyn, NY there is no way the general public will support a war with Iran.  A country that has not attacked anyone in nearly 500 years.  The view point of the Iranian president is blown out of proportion, it is to serve two purposes, the first is to take attention away from his failing domestic policies the second is to reinforce the fact that Zionism (not Judaism) shall not be tolerated in the Middle East. I question the integrity of this poll, unless the sample population was strictly from Brooklyn, NY there is no way the general public will support a war with Iran.  A country that has not attacked anyone in nearly 500 years.  The view point of the Iranian president is blown out of proportion, it is to serve two purposes, the first is to take attention away from his failing domestic policies the second is to reinforce the fact that Zionism (not Judaism) shall not be tolerated in the Middle East.

]]> 2009-11-20T;15:25:00-05:00 Comment by x@x.com Complete bullsh*t!  Americans could care less about that Iran’s president.  Why would America be scared of a weak country like Iran?  Give it warmongerers! Complete bullsh*t!  Americans could care less about that Iran’s president.  Why would America be scared of a weak country like Iran? 

Give it warmongerers!

]]> 2009-11-20T;15:25:00-05:00 Comment by faggiano@comcast.net Luntz...."Iran scares people” ah, call me crazy but it doesn’t seem like a good reason to to create even more chaos in the middle east. Luntz...."Iran scares people” ah, call me crazy but it doesn’t seem like a good reason to to create even more chaos in the middle east.

]]> 2009-11-20T;15:25:00-05:00 Comment by gwazman@myway.com USA wants to be the sherrif of the world.Why is it always on the violent side?why does it support opposition parties in Africa?why does it think it knows all?Shame on USA.Shame on the Americans!USA WILL NEVER SUCCEED IN CONTROLLING THE WORLD.ZIM HAS DEALT YOU A MAJOR BLOW!!LONG LIVE PRESIDENT MUGABE!!LONG LIVE IRAN!!LONG LIVE SADDAM’S SPIRIT!!SHORT LIVE BUSH. USA wants to be the sherrif of the world.Why is it always on the violent side?why does it support opposition parties in Africa?why does it think it knows all?Shame on USA.Shame on the Americans!USA WILL NEVER SUCCEED IN CONTROLLING THE WORLD.ZIM HAS DEALT YOU A MAJOR BLOW!!LONG LIVE PRESIDENT MUGABE!!LONG LIVE IRAN!!LONG LIVE SADDAM’S SPIRIT!!SHORT LIVE BUSH.

]]> 2009-11-20T;15:25:00-05:00 Comment by anthonycampbell@talktalk.net This is a case of “Damned if you do and damned if you don’t!” scenario.  If the attack goes ahead on Iran it will trigger off a lot more than the west bargined for.  Sleeper cells will do their worst in American and european cities.  A large number of people will die and our quality of life will be bedlam.  That is my humble opinion. This is a case of “Damned if you do and damned if you don’t!” scenario.  If the attack goes ahead on Iran it will trigger off a lot more than the west bargined for.  Sleeper cells will do their worst in American and european cities.  A large number of people will die and our quality of life will be bedlam.  That is my humble opinion.

]]> 2009-11-20T;15:25:00-05:00 Comment by hassani1387@yahoo.com The Israel Project has been lobbying for a war on Iran for year or more. The Israel Project has been lobbying for a war on Iran for year or more.

]]> 2009-11-20T;15:25:00-05:00