Is Obama alienating Jewish voters? http://blogs.jta.org/ENTRY_PERMALINK_HERE/is-obama-alienating-jewish-voters/ With the tension between Washington and Jerusalem showing few signs of abating, is President Obama alienating the Jews? en-us uheilman@jta.org Copyright 2010 2010-03-25T;19:15:00-05:00 Comment by jason H yadayada@gmail.com Even up to now, Netanyahu’s biggest mistake is underestimating Obama. I don’t think that he is getting it as yet by the pitches he made in his last trip to DC. For those who think Obama is anti-Semitic, the world is not divided in Ying and Yang.  What makes it even more complicated is that Ying can transform to Yang in the long term and vice versa.  Obama is very complex person. By labeling him enemy of Israel will only further damage the image of the Jews in the eyes of the world communities. Even up to now, Netanyahu’s biggest mistake is underestimating Obama. I don’t think that he is getting it as yet by the pitches he made in his last trip to DC.

For those who think Obama is anti-Semitic, the world is not divided in Ying and Yang.  What makes it even more complicated is that Ying can transform to Yang in the long term and vice versa.  Obama is very complex person. By labeling him enemy of Israel will only further damage the image of the Jews in the eyes of the world communities.

]]> 2012-05-23T;03:01:00-05:00 Comment by S Eze ezeces@gmail.com The United States by its actions of disrespect to visiting Israeli Prime Minister, has once again displayed how arrogant its leaders can be in the very moment when dignity is demanded. How can Barack Obama be walking out on Binyamin Natanyahu the Prime Minister of Israel visiting him in his own office? How can the United States be so arrogant to the extent that Israel and all Jewish people around the world can be so humiliated and some Jews and American writers thinks that Binyamin Natanyahu should aplologize to US for thinking about building some houses at a portion that is within Israeli territory? Doe it mean that the State of Israel does not possess the weapons needed to defend Israel without depending on the United States and its so called guarantees? Why would the Jewish people continue letting the United States trade off Israel at the expense of pleasing the Arabs whom they do business with? How long before all Jews realized that it is only in the hands of the Jews to defend Israel and not depend on external support? When will Jews around the world wake up from this illusion that they must secure the understanding of the United States before doing things that matter to the interest of Israel? Remember how the United States government turned away refugees coming from Germany in the early days of Hitler’s madness and how that single incident by the United States government helped to embolden Hitler and his army to kill more than 20 million people of which 6 millions were Jews. It is time that Jews around the world rise up and defend the Jewish Heritage without waiting for external support from sources that will never deliver. The United States by its actions of disrespect to visiting Israeli Prime Minister, has once again displayed how arrogant its leaders can be in the very moment when dignity is demanded. How can Barack Obama be walking out on Binyamin Natanyahu the Prime Minister of Israel visiting him in his own office? How can the United States be so arrogant to the extent that Israel and all Jewish people around the world can be so humiliated and some Jews and American writers thinks that Binyamin Natanyahu should aplologize to US for thinking about building some houses at a portion that is within Israeli territory? Doe it mean that the State of Israel does not possess the weapons needed to defend Israel without depending on the United States and its so called guarantees? Why would the Jewish people continue letting the United States trade off Israel at the expense of pleasing the Arabs whom they do business with? How long before all Jews realized that it is only in the hands of the Jews to defend Israel and not depend on external support?

When will Jews around the world wake up from this illusion that they must secure the understanding of the United States before doing things that matter to the interest of Israel? Remember how the United States government turned away refugees coming from Germany in the early days of Hitler’s madness and how that single incident by the United States government helped to embolden Hitler and his army to kill more than 20 million people of which 6 millions were Jews.

It is time that Jews around the world rise up and defend the Jewish Heritage without waiting for external support from sources that will never deliver.

]]> 2012-05-23T;03:01:00-05:00 Comment by Dennis S. Kite dsk007@cox.net Archie 1954 you sure your last name isn’t Bunker?  You sure do sound like him. So you are the one true American patriot who is unqualified judge and jury to decide who IS and WHO IS NOT an American by their feelings toward Israel?  We would like to know your background so we can judge you too. As far as Barak Hussein Obama goes, I can say two things:  #1 am glad the USA, my country, my only country, elected a black man as President, finally. #2 I do not think that this individual, Barak Hussein Obama, is qualified to be President of the USA, for several reasons which I would be pleased to go over with you anytime you wish.  I am extremely disappointed that the pollsters announced that around 75% of Jewish voters supported him, but I guess it was mostly a revulsion from former President Bush and his administration’s actions. I do not know one single Israeli person or citizen. I have never been to Israel. I served in the US Air Force during the Viet Nam era.  For you to state that anybody who supports the continued existence and security of the state of Israel as I do is not loyal to the USA is over the top.  I resent your attitude and your arrogance, and your ignorance.  The State of Israel will go on existing and growing despite haters like you. The long term friendship between the USA and Israel will continue long after Barak Hussein Obama is voted out of office in 2012.  Israel needs defensible borders. It is a very tiny country. It makes up less than 1% of the land mass known as the middle east, and those poor, poor Palestinians, Arabs, and Iranians are just going to have to make due with their 99.8% of the land. The children and the grandchildren of the Holocaust, and the descendants of Abraham, Isaac,and Jacob deserve to live peaceably and without constant attacks from suicide bombers in their ancient homeland. Archie 1954 you sure your last name isn’t Bunker?  You sure do sound like him. So you are the one true American patriot who is unqualified judge and jury to decide who IS and WHO IS NOT an American by their feelings toward Israel?  We would like to know your background so we can judge you too.

As far as Barak Hussein Obama goes, I can say two things:  #1 am glad the USA, my country, my only country, elected a black man as President, finally. #2 I do not think that this individual, Barak Hussein Obama, is qualified to be President of the USA, for several reasons which I would be pleased to go over with you anytime you wish.  I am extremely disappointed that the pollsters announced that around 75% of Jewish voters supported him, but I guess it was mostly a revulsion from former President Bush and his administration’s actions.

I do not know one single Israeli person or citizen. I have never been to Israel. I served in the US Air Force during the Viet Nam era.  For you to state that anybody who supports the continued existence and security of the state of Israel as I do is not loyal to the USA is over the top.  I resent your attitude and your arrogance, and your ignorance.  The State of Israel will go on existing and growing despite haters like you.
The long term friendship between the USA and Israel will continue long after Barak Hussein Obama is voted out of office in 2012.  Israel needs defensible borders. It is a very tiny country. It makes up less than 1% of the land mass known as the middle east, and those poor, poor Palestinians, Arabs, and Iranians are just going to have to make due with their 99.8% of the land. The children and the grandchildren of the Holocaust, and the descendants of Abraham, Isaac,and Jacob deserve to live peaceably and without constant attacks from suicide bombers in their ancient homeland.

]]> 2012-05-23T;03:01:00-05:00 Comment by Howard Cohn fossilh@aol.com Netanyahu should stand firm and not bow before Obama.  Obama is willing to use Israel to raise his stature in the Arab and Moslem world.  His slights against the government of Israel and it’s representatives are out there for all to see.  Jerusalem was and is the capital of Israel.  The only reason that the Arabs want it as their capital is because of the importance it has for the Jews.  Not one Arab ruler except for the ruler of Jordan went to the Temple Mount to pray while it was under British or Jordanian control.  Many of the “Arab” areas of Jerusalem are Arab because the Jews were forced to leave as a result of Arab riots during British rule and as a result of the conquest by Jordan. American Jews who voted for Obama are beginning to realize that he is not the wonder kid they thought he was.  They are beginning to see him as he is.  Listen carefully to his spokesmen and what they have to say.  Listen also to what they do not say and how they don’t say it.  Can you imagine he loud condemnations of Israel if they dedicated a square to Baruch Goldstein?  How loud were the shouts when the P.A. and their representatives dedicated a square to the terrorist who led the murder of 37 Israelis?  To add to the silence, Hillary stated that the square naming was done by Hamas and then blamed the mistake on the State Department. Netanyahu should stand firm and not bow before Obama.  Obama is willing to use Israel to raise his stature in the Arab and Moslem world.  His slights against the government of Israel and it’s representatives are out there for all to see.  Jerusalem was and is the capital of Israel.  The only reason that the Arabs want it as their capital is because of the importance it has for the Jews.  Not one Arab ruler except for the ruler of Jordan went to the Temple Mount to pray while it was under British or Jordanian control.  Many of the “Arab” areas of Jerusalem are Arab because the Jews were forced to leave as a result of Arab riots during British rule and as a result of the conquest by Jordan.
American Jews who voted for Obama are beginning to realize that he is not the wonder kid they thought he was.  They are beginning to see him as he is.  Listen carefully to his spokesmen and what they have to say.  Listen also to what they do not say and how they don’t say it.  Can you imagine he loud condemnations of Israel if they dedicated a square to Baruch Goldstein?  How loud were the shouts when the P.A. and their representatives dedicated a square to the terrorist who led the murder of 37 Israelis?  To add to the silence, Hillary stated that the square naming was done by Hamas and then blamed the mistake on the State Department.

]]> 2012-05-23T;03:01:00-05:00 Comment by onesime de girardin ogir2009@yahoo.fr Obama is a bigoted president who is firmly anti-Israel and pro-Arab. The way to deal with him is to expel the American ambassador to Israel and demand the release of Jonathan Pollard, failing which Israel should annex the West Bank and expel the fanatic Palestinian settlers there. all american Jews should pack their bags and make aliyah to Israel. Obama is a bigoted president who is firmly anti-Israel and pro-Arab. The way to deal with him is to expel the American ambassador to Israel and demand the release of Jonathan Pollard, failing which Israel should annex the West Bank and expel the fanatic Palestinian settlers there. all american Jews should pack their bags and make aliyah to Israel.

]]> 2012-05-23T;03:01:00-05:00 Comment by AARON LEVY AALEVY18@YAHOO.COM I say, THANK GOD FOR PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU. HE SHOULD AND WILL STAND FIRM AGAINST PRESIDENT OBAMA BULLY TACTICS. ISRAEL WILL NOT BOW TO MR. OBAMA AS HE DID TO OTHERS LIKE HE DID IN SAUDI ARABIA. ISRAEL AND WE JEWISH PEOPLE BOW TO NO ONE, EXCEPT POSSIBLE ASHEM!!!! I say, THANK GOD FOR PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU. HE SHOULD AND WILL STAND FIRM AGAINST PRESIDENT OBAMA BULLY TACTICS.
ISRAEL WILL NOT BOW TO MR. OBAMA AS HE DID TO OTHERS LIKE HE DID IN SAUDI ARABIA. ISRAEL AND WE JEWISH PEOPLE BOW TO NO ONE, EXCEPT POSSIBLE ASHEM!!!!

]]> 2012-05-23T;03:01:00-05:00 Comment by Archie1954 robertgsmiley@hotmail.com If the President is not alienating the “Jews” than it’s long past time that he did. I put “Jews” in quotes because it is not the correct term to use in this question. The correct term is Zionists. The majority of American followers of Judaism are strong American patriots as well. I don’t believe that about American Zionists whether members of Judaism or Christianity. It has been many years since the national interests of Israel and America coincided. I can trace the parting of the ways in July 1967 when Israel tried to sink the USS Liberty. After that the division in interest widened. Today the American military brass made it official, Israeli activities are harming American servicemen in far away places. Now we will find out who is an American patriot and who isn’t. When the Israeli firsters start their bleating because the President has lowered the boom on Israel, we will know. If the President is not alienating the “Jews” than it’s long past time that he did. I put “Jews” in quotes because it is not the correct term to use in this question. The correct term is Zionists. The majority of American followers of Judaism are strong American patriots as well. I don’t believe that about American Zionists whether members of Judaism or Christianity. It has been many years since the national interests of Israel and America coincided. I can trace the parting of the ways in July 1967 when Israel tried to sink the USS Liberty. After that the division in interest widened. Today the American military brass made it official, Israeli activities are harming American servicemen in far away places. Now we will find out who is an American patriot and who isn’t. When the Israeli firsters start their bleating because the President has lowered the boom on Israel, we will know.

]]> 2012-05-23T;03:01:00-05:00 Comment by Ben K bklein1043@aol.com I find this situation similar to Czechoslovokia Before World War 2, when the West happily sacrificed part of a democratic country to Hitler to Appease him, only to whet his appetite for more. Obama seems to Rudely try the same with part of little Israel for the Arabs! I find this situation similar to Czechoslovokia Before World War 2, when the West happily sacrificed part of a democratic country to Hitler to Appease him, only to whet his appetite for more.

Obama seems to Rudely try the same with part of little Israel for the Arabs!

]]> 2012-05-23T;03:01:00-05:00 Comment by Ben K bklein1043@aol.com I appreciate your fear for Israels “Jewish soul”. In the “Real World” we need to live with realities as opposed to with nice sounding “verbiage”. What shall Israel do for its Jewish “soul”. If facts are the Palestinian population are fanatical and uncompromising then retreating and giving them more land, as was with Gaza and South Lebanon, is dangerous. Regarding Jerusalem, that is where the Western Wall, old Jewish Quarter of Old City, Mount of Olives (major Jewish cemetary and strategic height) are. Over 200,000 Jews live in Jerusalem now. They should not be made homeless and Jews should not again lose access to their holiest and historic sites as before 1967. Yes, unlike J Street folks, most US Jews ARE UPTIGHT with Obama Bullying little Israel over Jewish housing rights while being SILENT to Arab rioting and incitement! I appreciate your fear for Israels “Jewish soul”.
In the “Real World” we need to live with realities as opposed to with nice sounding “verbiage”.
What shall Israel do for its Jewish “soul”.
If facts are the Palestinian population are fanatical and uncompromising then retreating and giving them more land, as was with Gaza and South Lebanon, is dangerous.
Regarding Jerusalem, that is where the Western Wall, old Jewish Quarter of Old City, Mount of Olives (major Jewish cemetary and strategic height) are. Over 200,000 Jews live in Jerusalem now.
They should not be made homeless and Jews should not again lose access to their holiest and historic sites as before 1967.
Yes, unlike J Street folks, most US Jews ARE UPTIGHT with Obama Bullying little Israel over Jewish housing rights while being SILENT to Arab rioting and incitement!

]]> 2012-05-23T;03:01:00-05:00 Comment by Yochanan Hardisty yochanan41@sbcglobal.net I fear for the Jewish soul of Israel.What kind of a Jew will there be when the majority of the population of the “Jewish” state is Arab? As it now stands,Israel rules over a majority population of Arabs.I have heard it said and seen it written by my fellow Jews here in the US and in Israel,"All we have to do is move them out to other Arab states.”.What kind of a Jew could load Arabs onto transport trains to the east? I fear for the Jewish soul of Israel.What kind of a Jew will there be when the majority of the population of the “Jewish” state is
Arab? As it now stands,Israel rules over a majority population
of Arabs.I have heard it said and seen it written by my fellow
Jews here in the US and in Israel,"All we have to do is move
them out to other Arab states.”.What kind of a Jew could load
Arabs onto transport trains to the east?

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