Does Obama still have the ‘kishkes’ problem? http://blogs.jta.org/ENTRY_PERMALINK_HERE/does-obama-still-have-the-kishkes-problem/ The Orthodox Union’s Nathan Diament says Obama is still struggling with the “kishkes’ test. en-us efingerhut@jta.org Copyright 2009 2009-07-25T;00:34:00-05:00 Comment by Steve B abash40@verizon.net Jeffrey Blankfort is right IF you turn history on its head and deny the Brits their internationally recognized right as a mandate governor to declare a Jewish State in the area east of the Jordon (1918), which the U.N. incorporated in its declaration of an independent State of Israel (1947) - (i was around for the later but not for the former - perhaps Mr. Blankfort, claiming the wisdom of old age, was present for both.) It would also be a twist of history to force a peace on the victor of a defensive war - including requiring resettlement of folks kept in “refugee” status by their Arab brothers for 62 years (when on the average, historically, folks have moved from refugee status to resettling somewhere in an average of 7 years.) But giving Mr. Blankfort the benefit of the doubt, it must be long past due for most of us “Americans”, descendents of non-North Americans, to end our intransience and settle accounts with Native Americans. Finally, giving Mr. Blankfort the benefit of the doubt, what say he about the status of almost 1 million Jews chased from Arab lands in the late 1940’s leaving behind real estate 7+ times the size of Israel and wealth worth in excess of $50 billion. Jeffrey Blankfort is right IF you turn history on its head and deny the Brits their internationally recognized right as a mandate governor to declare a Jewish State in the area east of the Jordon (1918), which the U.N. incorporated in its declaration of an independent State of Israel (1947) - (i was around for the later but not for the former - perhaps Mr. Blankfort, claiming the wisdom of old age, was present for both.)

It would also be a twist of history to force a peace on the victor of a defensive war - including requiring resettlement of folks kept in “refugee” status by their Arab brothers for 62 years (when on the average, historically, folks have moved from refugee status to resettling somewhere in an average of 7 years.) But giving Mr. Blankfort the benefit of the doubt, it must be long past due for most of us “Americans”, descendents of non-North Americans, to end our intransience and settle accounts with Native Americans.

Finally, giving Mr. Blankfort the benefit of the doubt, what say he about the status of almost 1 million Jews chased from Arab lands in the late 1940’s leaving behind real estate 7+ times the size of Israel and wealth worth in excess of $50 billion.

]]> 2012-05-23T;03:01:00-05:00 Comment by Jeffrey Blankfort jblankfort@earthlink.net Since you asked, having been a Jew probably longer than those who have made their comments, I find it immoral that a Jew born in the US, the UK, France.South Africa,Australia--you get the idea--has not only more of a right to live in historic Palestine, then those Palestinian Arabs who were born there and whose families lived there and worked the land for generations, but that any suggestion that those who fled or expelled have no right to return to the land of their birth is rejected out of hand. And then they are asked to legitimize the crime committed against them by recognizing Israel as a Jewish state. The world is growing tired of Israel and its belligerency and only AIPAC and the Jewish establishment’s hold over Congress keeps the US at is side as its faithful guardian. But for how long? Since you asked, having been a Jew probably longer than those who have made their comments, I find it immoral that a Jew born in the US, the UK, France.South Africa,Australia--you get the idea--has not only more of a right to live in historic Palestine, then those Palestinian Arabs who were born there and whose families lived there and worked the land for generations, but that any suggestion that those who fled or expelled have no right to return to the land of their birth is rejected out of hand. And then they are asked to legitimize the crime committed against them by recognizing Israel as a Jewish state. The world is growing tired of Israel and its belligerency and only AIPAC and the Jewish establishment’s hold over Congress keeps the US at is side as its faithful guardian. But for how long?

]]> 2012-05-23T;03:01:00-05:00 Comment by N. Shuster nashu24@yahoo.com Ms. Raivich: Thanks for stating what unforunately appears to be a mystery to so many. What is it that makes so many American Jews so very uncomfortable with the facts of Jewish legitimacy in the Land of Israel? Why do so many of them find it difficult to unabashedly defend this right? Why do Arab phony claims and libelous accusations carry such cache with the enlightened amonng us? I think I know what the answers are, but I thopught I’d ask them anyway. Ms. Raivich: Thanks for stating what unforunately appears to be a mystery to so many.
What is it that makes so many American Jews so very uncomfortable with the facts of Jewish legitimacy in the Land of Israel? Why do so many of them find it difficult to unabashedly defend this right?
Why do Arab phony claims and libelous accusations carry such cache with the enlightened amonng us?
I think I know what the answers are, but I thopught I’d ask them anyway.

]]> 2012-05-23T;03:01:00-05:00 Comment by Gena Raivich g.raivich@ucl.ac.uk @Michael Hess Since when is the settlement of Jews in the territory of the League of Nations mandate illegal? Hey? Jews have both the biblical and the international law right to settle in Yehuda and Shomron. The only claim Arabs had to Yehuda and Shomron was the right of conquest. And this right, they lost in 1967 when Jordan attacked Israel, and lost Yehuda and Shomron in the following war. Most of the land (90% or so) in Yehuda and Shomron is state land, so there is no-one to steal from, if Jews settle on this land. @Michael Hess
Since when is the settlement of Jews in the territory of the League of Nations mandate illegal? Hey? Jews have both the biblical and the international law right to settle in Yehuda and Shomron. The only claim Arabs had to Yehuda and Shomron was the right of conquest. And this right, they lost in 1967 when Jordan attacked Israel, and lost Yehuda and Shomron in the following war. Most of the land (90% or so) in Yehuda and Shomron is state land, so there is no-one to steal from, if Jews settle on this land.

]]> 2012-05-23T;03:01:00-05:00 Comment by Shai shaisolo@yahoo.com Embarassed to read the OU’s apologetics...What was there at that meeting that was more important than making clear to Pres. Obama that the OU constituency, at the very least, is deeply upset by his one-sided, misguided policy regarding settlements (and Jerusalem) in particular, and Israel in general? Embarassed to read the OU’s apologetics...What was there at that meeting that was more important than making clear to Pres. Obama that the OU constituency, at the very least, is deeply upset by his one-sided, misguided policy regarding settlements (and Jerusalem) in particular, and Israel in general?

]]> 2012-05-23T;03:01:00-05:00 Comment by Michael Hess bbsnews@gmail.com All of the “settlements” are illegal. There is no reason for the victims to do a thing. The onus is on the land and resource thieves that are stealing from the Palestinians. In civilized countries the criminal does not dictate his or her sentence or punishment, and the criminal certainly does not get to keep the stolen goods! All of the “settlements” are illegal. There is no reason for the victims to do a thing. The onus is on the land and resource thieves that are stealing from the Palestinians.

In civilized countries the criminal does not dictate his or her sentence or punishment, and the criminal certainly does not get to keep the stolen goods!

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