Palin on settlements: Jews ‘flocking’ to Israel need a place to live
Sarah Palin says she disagrees with the Obama administration's demand that Israel halt settlement construction, although her reason for that opinion is puzzling (or at the least demonstrates she's not familiar with the term "natural growth" that much of the debate has revolved around). She tells Barbara Walters that she disagrees with the White House because all the Jews moving to Israel need a place to live. From ABC News:
I disagree with the Obama administration on that," Palin told Walters. "I believe that the Jewish settlements should be allowed to be expanded upon, because that population of Israel is, is going to grow. More and more Jewish people will be flocking to Israel in the days and weeks and months ahead. And I don't think that the Obama administration has any right to tell Israel that the Jewish settlements cannot expand.
J Street responded by releasing a lengthy statement which condemned Palin's comments and accused her of pandering and ignorance. An excerpt:
J Street rejects Sarah Palin’s comments attacking President Obama’s sensible policy on Israeli settlements in the West Bank yesterday during an ABC News interview with Barbara Walters.
Palin’s pandering to her right-wing base comes at the expense of the security of the State of Israel, the lives of those actually living the conflict, and the fundamental American interest in achieving a two-state solution in the near term. Her words reveal a glaring ignorance of damaging facts and a callous disregard of past and present U.S. policy.
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Cohn, Indigenous peoples, including those of the Southwest U.S. have far more connection to this land that we of European ancestry. Many Mexicans have that ancestry. Jews inhabited a small portion (less than 10%) of what is now Israel, and Jews have ALWAYS been a historical minority in what is they now claim as Israel. See this map for your lesson on modern history:of Palestinian lands that were stolen and continue to be stolen from those other than Jew: http://lawrenceofcyberia.blogs.com/photos/maps/landloss.html
More REAL history that belies the mythical nonsense of Zionists and their ignorant supporters:
“Between 3000 and 1100 B.C., Canaanite civilization covered what is today Israel, the West Bank, Lebanon and much of Syria and Jordan...Those who remained in the Jerusalem hills after the Romans expelled the Jews [in the second century A.D.] were a potpourri: farmers and vineyard growers, pagans and converts to Christianity, descendants of the Arabs, Persians, Samaritans, Greeks and old Canaanite tribes.” Marcia Kunstel and Joseph Albright, “Their Promised Land.”
“The extended kingdoms of David and Solomon, on which the Zionists base their territorial demands, endured for only about 73 years...Then it fell apart...[Even] if we allow independence to the entire life of the ancient Jewish kingdoms, from David’s conquest of Canaan in 1000 B.C. to the wiping out of Judah in 586 B.C., we arrive at [only] a 414 year Jewish rule.” Illene Beatty, “Arab and Jew in the Land of Canaan.”
More on Canaanite civilization
“Recent archeological digs have provided evidence that Jerusalem was a big and fortified city already in 1800 BCE...Findings show that the sophisticated water system heretofor attributed to the conquering Israelites pre-dated them by eight centuries and was even more sophisticated than imagined…
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/history/origin.html#early
A good read on historical fact by a Jewish professor at the University of Tel Aviv:: Israel Delberately Forgets Its History by Dr. Shlomo Sand (Zand)
http://mondediplo.com/2008/09/07israel
So spare everyone here more of the nonsense that attempts to justify the ongoing theft of other’s land for the Zionist cause, a cause that has hijaked the religion of Judaism. Until Theodore Herzl came on the scene, Jewish Rabbis knew that Israel was not about the land. Israel was about the heart and the righteousness of the good Jewish people. It is far from righteous to steal and live in the homes of those one has driven from those homes. It is far from righteous to beat people and kill them for their land. Zionists should disgust all who believe in a righteous God. The temporary land grant that the old books speak of was CONDITIONAL on the Covenant. Jewish ancestors repeatedly broke the covenant, and were punished by loss of their right to the ancient land of Israel. Period.
What about the lands which the Jews purchased from the absentee Arab landlords - Stolen??? What about all the Jewish real estate and personal property expropriated by the various Arab governments, when they expelled the Jews after 1948 - Are they going to give it all back???
You commentators should not get caught up in the Right vs. Left political propaganda! You sound like 3 minute election day mudslinging TV ads. The administratio should cut out the nation building. Let the two parties work things out for themselves.
Salman:
You ask: “Who cares what sarah Palin thinks?” and I would concur, if so many American Jews did not care so much what Barak Hussein Obama, that thoroughly unAmerican president, thinks. Why would the thoughts of a person completely divergent of traditional and historical American background and attitudes evoke such supportive passions in so many Jewish-American hearts?
What more does he need to do (both in domestic polittics and foreign policy) before those mentioned above hop off the death train?
Carl Maltzman’s comments are sadly ignorant. Evangelicals hated Jews 30 years ago? As one who was brought up in an Evangelical family I well remember the rejoicing in my family at the founding of Israel--and I assure you my parents had genuine empathy for those whom they regarded as God’s chosen people. This sort of hatred by a supposed Jew for those who love Israel is hard to understand. Such attitudes may in the end alienate even so pro-Jewish a community as the Evangelicals.
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Howard Cohn
11/20/09 01:20 AM
Mr. Evans, your grasp of history leaves a lot to be desired. The “Mexicans” did not live in the areas you describe, except as conquerers. The Spanish came to the area now known as Mexico, an area their ancestors had no connection to, and later went in search of gold/silver to the areas you believe should be Mexican. Jews lived in the area of Eretz Yisrael as a free, self governing people until they were forced out by the Romans. Perhaps you will deny that there ever was an independent Jewish State in the area now known as Israel. Just go on ebay and you can buy coins minted by the Jewish rulers of Eretz Yisrael. Better the support of Gov. Palin than the promises of eternal support from Obama.