‘Stand up and be counted’
Isi Leibler writes in The Jerusalem Post that American Jews need to get tougher with President Obama -- for Israel's sake:
... A public campaign must be launched. It is crucial that the case for Israel not rest exclusively with Jewish Republicans or Christian evangelicals. Jewish Democrats must be at the forefront if the bipartisan approach which for decades has been the hallmark of US policy toward Israel is to be retained.
Democrat champions for Israel like Alan Dershowitz should explain to Obama why employing so-called "tough love" against Israel is both immoral and counterproductive.
The burden rests on American Jews. Hopefully they will succeed in persuading Obama that if he seeks to 'engage' with tyrants and enemies of freedom, he can do no less than behave likewise to the only democratic state in the region and stop bombarding them with diktats. They must stand up and be counted. Jewish activists should make Obama understand that if he continues to appease Arabs by distancing the US from Israel and reneging on prior American commitments, the Jewish community, including many of his most devoted followers, will conclude that he betrayed them.
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Mr. Shuster, your question, “If the American Indian is considered the aboriginal, why do you reject the Jewish people’s rights in their own homeland?” is a confused analogy, as Palestinians who were descended on by Jewish immigrants are more analogous to our aboriginal people on the North American continent. So it is I who should be asking you why you reject the rights of Palestinians to their homeland.
The Zionist notion of a “right of return” is bogus, as Jews in massive numbers never left the small portion of what is now Israel/Palestine. This is a historical fact. Judahism spread throughout the World just as Christianity and the Islamic Faith spread throught the World through proselytization of the Faith. In modern times Jews constituted less than 10% of the population of what was to become Israel. In 1948, they still made up only 33%. Jews have NO exclusive right to the land that is now Israel, in fact UN resolutions declared that Jews live side by side with their Arab Palestinian brothers, and that after Israel was established, UN 242 demanded that those 700,000 Palestinians who fled their homes be allowed to return to them. Israel never allowed that to happen, and Israel continues bulldozing homes and building The Wall into Palestinian areas, stealing more land and evacuating and cutting off Palestinians from their lands. Settlement-building continues, as Ariel Sharon’s plan continues, unabated:
also, please read this brief article by the founder of a website that I referred to. It is not a “tainted” site, as you have baselessly charged. Please back up your allegations with more than ignorant opinion:
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/argus/index.ssf?/base/news/1233948071163500.xml&coll=6
Evans:
In November 1947. the Jewish population of what was about to become Israel through its representatives, although bitterly disappointed, accepted the decision of the United Nations.
The Arabs rejected it and declared war.
There have been many wars since and many dead, many dislocations on both sides. This went on for over half century. Israel prevailed, the Arabs lost. They provoked one conflict after another driving themselves and the Israelis to near-insanity.
They can not be rewarded for this. In a sliver of a land that is fifty miles wide at its broadest and dangerously ten-miles at its narrowest, there is nothing to reward its tormentors with that would allow Israel to continue living. They cannot demand redress for problems caused by them or their friends. Nevertheless, Israel on many occasions has expressed the desire to help with the final resolution of the refugee problem. Arab response? Not interested. I have been to Israel many times and have been amazed at the accomplishments of its heroic people under circumstances that would have broken others, and therefore none of your links would make me see Israel or its magnificent people as the villains some of your ilk see. I live in the real world.
End of story.
Mr. Evans! Anti-Semitism, like stupidity cannot be unlearned. You chose to disregard facts, mentioned by others, because they don’t fit your warped views. Let’s make this simple: There was never a nation called Palestinians. Most of today’s so-called Palestinians are, like most Israeli Jews, descendants of immigrants; in the Arabs’ case, these were farmworkers imported by the effendis to work their latifundia. Jewish settlement in the early 20th century actually increased the influx of Arabs into Eretz Israel because the Jews treated these workers better than the effendis would. After the War of Independence, caused by the aggression of the Arab League, a population exchange occurred, like after many wars, e.g. Greeks and Turks after WW I, Muslims and Hindus after the partition of the Indian subcontinent into India and Pakistan in 1948.
Finally, Eretz Israel belongs to us as it ever did. Nobody, particularly nincompoops like B.Hussein Obama or you, will ever displace us from there. Like an old Middle Eastern proverb states:"The mangy dogs may bark, but the caravan moves on relentlessly.”
People who quote Shlaim or Amnesty as authoritative unbiassed sources are dishonest and/or fools. People who claim that Israel is an aggressor, colonial, land stealing state and never mention the uncompromising, aggressive, lying Arabs demonstrate Sharansky’s three “Ds” of antisemitism: delegitimisation, demonisation and double standards.
Now getting to the article by isi Liebler. He called on USA Jews to stand up for Israel and to tell Hussein Soetoro (aka Barrack Obama) that he is wrong and his policy is alienating a friend and ally at the sme time that he is earning the contempt if the Mohammedans he is courting. Equally to the point is that Jews need to assert their right to be treated as the loyal citizens that they are and not as Neal Sher observed a few years ago, as guests in their own country. The USA’s president is doing a disservice to Israel, the USA, moderate Muslim and the free world in general. He is an ignorant ideologue who needs to be confronted by reality and by Jews who have principles and who will not bow down before someone in high office.
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David R. Evans
07/28/09 10:57 PM
N Shuster, as an example of nonsence, let’s examine your statement, “Judea (Roman name) is the historic birthplace of the Jewish people recognized by history, religious heritage, the League of Nations, Balfour Declaration, etc., etc. After one betrayal after another, the West “allowed” the Jews to return to a small part of their ancient homeland only to be met with the hostility and violence of the squatters. I guess you mind the Israelis’ success of defending themselves.
While Jews lived on some of the land referred to, so did people of other religions and cultures. Jews have no exclusive right to ALL of what other people have historical attachment to. On what logic do you base such a foolish claim? Thousands of years later, after much population movements, mixing and boundary changes as empires waxed and waned, Jews claim they have exclusive right to throw out people who have made the land their homes for dozens of generations? What kind of moral ground can such a claim have? Only a sociopathic racist could side with such nonsense!