‘All Jews’ on trial over Madoff http://blogs.jta.org/ENTRY_PERMALINK_HERE/all-jews-on-trial-over-madoff/ Phyllis Chessler warns that Jews need to realize that they are all on trial over Bernard Madoff’s Pnzi scheme. en-us aeden@jta.org Copyright 2008 2008-12-23T;19:07:00-05:00 Comment by alex mayyasi alexmayyasi@gmail.com Boston Review has just posted an article on this subject: http://blogs.jta.org/philanthropy/article/2008/12/23/1001770/all-jews-on-trial-over-madoff Check it out, it may surprise you. Boston Review has just posted an article on this subject:

http://blogs.jta.org/philanthropy/article/2008/12/23/1001770/all-jews-on-trial-over-madoff

Check it out, it may surprise you.

]]> 2011-02-25T;01:28:00-05:00 Comment by mrgreenluv mrgreenluv@gmail.com It is a sad situation.  But he seems like a happy man.  Take care with your thoughts.  Regards. It is a sad situation. 

But he seems like a happy man. 

Take care with your thoughts. 

Regards.

]]> 2011-02-25T;01:28:00-05:00 Comment by Renee Gold terwood2390@yahoo.com If we object to being “tried” with Madoff, let’s remember not to paint the members of other groups with a broad brush! Let’s also remember that Madoff grew up in the Jewish community, and we, as a community, have some soul-searching to do.  Somehow, his “issues” were overlooked, dismissed, or enabled by the Jewish community. If we object to being “tried” with Madoff, let’s remember not to paint the members of other groups with a broad brush!

Let’s also remember that Madoff grew up in the Jewish community, and we, as a community, have some soul-searching to do.  Somehow, his “issues” were overlooked, dismissed, or enabled by the Jewish community.

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]]> 2011-02-25T;01:28:00-05:00 Comment by Jim McMahon davewilson008@yahoo.com True, no group is pure, but one can’t help but notice the Jewish names that persistently pop up in these kinds of scandals. If you try to deny that you lose all credibility. It’s a matter of culture and morals. Jews do not share the values of the majority in their host nations and THAT’S what causes the perennial conflict. Jews will do things for a shekel that I would never dream of. For example, if I got into producing porn my Mother would disown me--Semore Butts’ mother keeps his books. Rabbi Shmuley Boiteach says that “Rancid materialism is corrupting our community” http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1228728209076&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull I couldn’t agree with him more. I like Jews...no I love Jews. You have many good qualities: smarts, drive, ambition. But I don’t think that you are above criticism! As a friend I urge you to look in the mirror and reflect on why you have been driven out of so many countries throughout history. Ant-Semitism doesn’t spring from nothing--actions have consequences. Goy business types, like myself, have all been stung by Bernie Madoff type, albeit on a much smaller scale. While we can’t talk about it publicly for fear of being labeled an “anti-Semite” believe me, we talk about it in hushed tones amongst ourselves (the ADL is probably trying to figure out how to ban “hushed tones” as I write!) I think Jews’ problem with money is like that of an alcoholic--their craving for it ultimately destroys them and those around them. Its ironic that the Elie Wiesel Foundation for Humanity, set up to fight the stereotype that Jews are shysters gets brought down by a Jewish shyster. Think about it: one of your own has done more damage to Jews than David Duke could have done in a thousand lifetimes. This is meant to be constructive criticism. True, no group is pure, but one can’t help but notice the Jewish names that persistently pop up in these kinds of scandals. If you try to deny that you lose all credibility. It’s a matter of culture and morals. Jews do not share the values of the majority in their host nations and THAT’S what causes the perennial conflict.

Jews will do things for a shekel that I would never dream of. For example, if I got into producing porn my Mother would disown me--Semore Butts’ mother keeps his books.

Rabbi Shmuley Boiteach says that “Rancid materialism is corrupting our community”
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1228728209076&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull
I couldn’t agree with him more.

I like Jews...no I love Jews. You have many good qualities: smarts, drive, ambition. But I don’t think that you are above criticism! As a friend I urge you to look in the mirror and reflect on why you have been driven out of so many countries throughout history. Ant-Semitism doesn’t spring from nothing--actions have consequences.

Goy business types, like myself, have all been stung by Bernie Madoff type, albeit on a much smaller scale. While we can’t talk about it publicly for fear of being labeled an “anti-Semite” believe me, we talk about it in hushed tones amongst ourselves (the ADL is probably trying to figure out how to ban “hushed tones” as I write!)

I think Jews’ problem with money is like that of an alcoholic--their craving for it ultimately destroys them and those around them. Its ironic that the Elie Wiesel Foundation for Humanity, set up to fight the stereotype that Jews are shysters gets brought down by a Jewish shyster.

Think about it: one of your own has done more damage to Jews than David Duke could have done in a thousand lifetimes.

This is meant to be constructive criticism.

]]> 2011-02-25T;01:28:00-05:00 Comment by Ari a_blum_1@yahoo.com I am of t opinion that Madoff will be perceived by our detractors, like the Fascists both here and abroad, as a Jew, and by the Banning industry and the law as an evil, stupid and greedy individual criminal. It’s the Einstein conundrum in reverse. Einstein once stated that “. . . if his theories are correct, he would be claimed as a citizen of the USA, Israel and Germany.  If his theories are wrong, he will be disavowed by the USA, Israel and Germany. Ari Blum I am of t opinion that Madoff will be perceived by our detractors, like the Fascists both here and abroad, as a Jew, and by the Banning industry and the law as an evil, stupid and greedy individual criminal.
It’s the Einstein conundrum in reverse. Einstein once stated that “. . . if his theories are correct, he would be claimed as a citizen of the USA, Israel and Germany.  If his theories are wrong, he will be disavowed by the USA, Israel and Germany.

Ari Blum

]]> 2011-02-25T;01:28:00-05:00 Comment by estee singer esteesinger@gmail.com Jews should not be held accountable for Madoff’s greed, the fact that he is a jew and was well respected and trusted by other jews, and the bulk of money invested was loss by jews is a travesty in of itself, this dose not condemn the majority of jews who never heard of Madoff until this happened. Jews should not be held accountable for Madoff’s greed, the
fact that he is a jew and was well respected and trusted by
other jews, and the bulk of money invested was loss by jews is a travesty in of itself, this dose not condemn the majority of
jews who never heard of Madoff until this happened.

]]> 2011-02-25T;01:28:00-05:00 Comment by Sheldon Green sheldonlgreen@hotmail.com Jews are not on trial over or with Madoff.  Madoff is on trial and his industry is on trial as long as it doesn’t clean itself up.  If anyone wants or needs to accept any of Madoff’s blame or guilt it is there own problem--and it’s very sad.  There are Jewish crooks, Gentile crooks, Muslim crooks, etc.  No one group is “pure”. Jews are not on trial over or with Madoff.  Madoff is on trial and his industry is on trial as long as it doesn’t clean itself up.  If anyone wants or needs to accept any of Madoff’s blame or guilt it is there own problem--and it’s very sad.  There are Jewish crooks, Gentile crooks, Muslim crooks, etc.  No one group is “pure”.

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